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Re: [inbox] Re: Reacting to a server compromise


From: "Gaurav Kumar" <gaurav () e2-labs com>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:29:17 +0530

i guess one may use encase (http://www.guidancesoftware.com/products/software/encaseforensic/index.shtm)
as the url says that "Validated by trial and appellate court rulings"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Curt Purdy" <purdy () tecman com>
To: <devnull () iprimus com au>; <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: RE: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] Reacting to a server compromise


Negative.  Ghost is as capapble of making a bitwise copy of a drive (one of
two modes it has) as is dd in *NIX.  It is perfectly admissable in all
courts I know, as long as it is done quickly after compromise.  Standard
procedure (as little as there is standard in this young but quickly maturing
field) dictates you make an immediate initial dd copy for the court.  Then
make as many working dd's as neccessary for forensics.

Curt Purdy CISSP, GSEC, MCSE+I, CNE, CCDA
Senior Systems Engineer
Information Security Engineer
DP Solutions
cpurdy () dpsol com
936.637.7977 ext. 121

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If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked.
What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
-- White House cybersecurity adviser Richard Clarke



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On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 01:38 am, Jennifer Bradley wrote:

If this happens again, I would probably make a copy of the hard drive,
or at the very least the log files since they can be entered as
evidence of a hacked box.

Under most jurisdictions, an ordinary disk image produced by Norton Ghost
etc
using standard hardware is completely inadmissible in court, as it is
impossible to make one without possibly compromising the integrity of the
evidence. The police etc use specialised hardware for making such copies,
which ensures that the disk can't have been altered.
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