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Re: Ron Dufresne rears his head again (was: security industry under scrutiny)
From: Steve <steve () videogroup com>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:40:19 -0500
On Friday 08 November 2002 12:37 am, dev-null () no-id com wrote:
The main point behind the rants of these lame kids is that > once their little hacks and sploit tools are well known and defendedLame kids... *Their* sploit tools... Aren't we a walking bundle of contradiction? I agree that it may piss off some "blackhats" when XXX bug finds its way onto the security lists 2-3 years later, but to say that attacks are well known and defended against means not only the end of the computer underground, but the end of the security industry. I imagine heavenly security professionals such as yourself wouldn't want this scenario to transpire.
Then one can concentrate on functionality and leave security concern in the rear seat. Since someone in the security industry needs to know his way around he won't need any retraining to work. But that's theoretical anyway as this will never happen. With every new protocol, every new program and every new user (seemingly) new issues comes up that needs solving. Only a narrow minded fool would try to keep issues out there to have job security. I'm sure the same fool is not very good at what he does anyway.
In summary, the lame kids sending winternet spools and home directories around EFNet may get really pissed off when they can no longer compromise computer security, but their loss in mental stimulation is pale in comparison to your monetary losses when Secure Internet puts the security industry out of business.
However secure the Internet becomes there will be stupid things and not so stupid things that people need help with. If the security industry disappeared, security would follow suit anyway, and we'll be back to square one.
It really irks me that a former member of the G-Force Pakistan defacing group has the hide to denounce other clueless kidiots.
Who knows, maybe criminal pride? -- Steve Szmidt _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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