On sf sell out

[full-disclosure () lists netsys com (Charles 'core' Stevenson)]

Er... please disregard that last e-mail it was sent to the list on 
accident. If you're interested in joining our small list and develop 
exploits feel free to contact core-owner () noops english org since I spilt 
the beans.

best regards,
core

Charles 'core' Stevenson wrote:
> Georgi,
>
> Hi I've always admired your work :) Especially the AIX shellcode.. 
> anyways I just thought I would write you to inform you of a small time 
> for exploit developers only mailing list. So far we have about 10 well 
> reputed exploit developers on our list. And that's it! No security 
> consultants, pen-testers, script kiddies... the URL is here. excuse the 
> pop-up; I've found friendly hosting for the list but not the page yet :)
>
> http://www.crosswinds.net/~zerodaydigest/
>
> Please take a look at the charter. Anyways, we'd all love to benefit 
> from your wide range of exploit development expertise!
>
> best regards,
> core
>
> Georgi Guninski wrote:
>
> > Here are my 2 stotinki on Securityfocus's sell out.
> >
> > I don't mind aleph1 & co. taking $75M. What I am concerned what price we
> > shall pay for it. ($75M is too much for collecting other people's 0days,
> > IMHO)
> >
> > What scares me about Securityfocus is that since the beginning 2002
> > they started not posting some of my posts to bugtraq but seem to post
> > "politically correct" messages.
> >
> > They went so far to not post a real vulnerability  [1](later 
> > indirectly confirmed by Microsoft in a bulletin, not fixed yet).
> > Then I decided - no 0days for securityfocus and started posting only
> > comments and opinions, mainly on the topic of full disclosure.
> > Most of them didn't get to the list, though the opposite of my 
> > opinions were
> > posted.
> >
> > Hope they don't turn into mainstream media outlet and use the power of
> > moderation for labelling people and ideas as good and bad in their user
> > base.
> >
> > Note: I don't mean to whine for them moderating me down, it is their 
> > right
> > to do whatever they want with their mailing lists, but think this 
> > should be
> > publicly known.
> >
> > [1] http://www.guninski.com/signedactivex.html (also check ver. 2.0)
> >
> > Georgi Guninski
> > http://www.guninski.com
> >
> >
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