RE: Denial of Service: Commercial Defense products

["Joel Friedman" <jfriedman () datapipe com>]

Riverhead (now Cisco Guard) is by far the best choice.  We had a little in
house shoot-out where we attacked multiple vendors' hardware and graphed
their results into the millions of packets per second.  Due to NDA's we are
not allowed to disclose which vendors, nor their results, but I can say that
Riverhead successfully defended against more than twice the load of its
competitors...at the time it was able to stop approximately 1.5 million SYN
packets per second while still allowing legitimate traffic.

IMHO there is no other choice.

--Joel


-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Quest [mailto:Kyle.Quest () networkengines com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:42 PM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Denial of Service: Commercial Defense products

You should really look at Top Layer if you are serious
about defending against denial of service attacks.
Don't even waste your time on Mazu or McAfee.
Tipping Point is suppose to get better at it 
as well (they were working on some news things
the last time I had a chance to talk to one
of their top guys), but I don't know if it's
already available.

I would recommend looking at the NSS reports 
(http://www.nss.co.uk/download/download.htm).
Unfortunately, the online version of the report
that includes Top Layer review is no longer available,
but you can still buy it for a couple of bucks.

Kyle

-----Original Message-----
From: Ogle [mailto:myinfosec () gmail com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:44 AM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: Denial of Service: Commercial Defense products


Hi,
I have an ISP customer who want to protect their network and their
subscriber's network.
In "Internet Denial of Service: Attack and Defense Mecahnisms" book, I
noticed 7 commercial products.
1. Mazu Enforcer by Mazu Networks
2. Peakflow by Arbor Networks
3. WS Series Apliances by Webscreen Technologies
4. Captus IPS by Captus Networks
5. MANAnet Shield by CS3
6. Cisco Traffic Anomaly Detector XT and Cisco Guard XT
7. StealthWatch by Lancope

Since I'm new with this type of products, is there any reference out
there to help me choose the right solution to my customer ?
Is there any problem if I use IPS (ie: TippingPoint, McAfee) for this
solution ?

Thanks.

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