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Re: Network hardware IPS
From: Cory Stoker <cstoker () latis com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:52:20 -0600
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Alvin Wong wrote: <snip> | |Also, my question to any is the following |"One note of caution on TCP Reset is not a preferred method of blocking |attacks according to some security experts. " Alan Shimel | |Why isn't TCP reset a preferred method of blocking? | |Regards, |Alvin | <snip> Hi:The main reason that TCP resets are not a preferred method of blocking is it is not Guaranteed to be successful. I quote below:
" In our tests, snort (v 1.8.4 and beta v. 1.9.1) does not always kill the HTTP connection using the RST and/or ICMPs. In most of the cases connection is reset and sometimes it remains running and the file (dummy " cmd.exe" placed on Apache web server) is successfully downloaded. The possible explanation is that RST arrives too late for the connection to be reset since the response from server comes earlier with the right sequence number. The delayed RST is then discarded. Thus RST/ICMP is not a reliable security mechanism (exactly as claimed in the snort documentation)." -- Anton Chuvakin, Ph.D.
Also many attacks are too short for a TCP reset to be effective or the attacker could change his IP stack to disregard the TCP reset.
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Current thread:
- Network hardware IPS Alvin Wong (Sep 29)
- RE: Network hardware IPS Alan Shimel (Sep 29)
- Re: Network hardware IPS Andy Cuff [Talisker] (Sep 29)
- Re: Network hardware IPS nick black (Sep 30)
- Re: Network hardware IPS Ravi Kumar (Sep 30)
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- RE: Network hardware IPS JAVIER OTERO (Sep 30)
- RE: Network hardware IPS travis . alexander (Sep 30)
- RE: Network hardware IPS JAVIER OTERO (Sep 30)
- RE: Network hardware IPS Nimesh Vakharia (Sep 30)
- RE: Network hardware IPS Bob Walder (Sep 30)