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Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me
From: Michael Sierchio <kudzu () tenebras com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:03:45 -0700
Anton Chuvakin wrote:
My first impression was that it is a page defacement, so outrageous some claims are. For instance, did you know that IDS actually _cause_ incident response to happen? :-) Or this gem : "Money Slated for Intrusion Detection Should Be Invested in Firewalls"?
It's true that IDS is in its infancy, that many components have a high cost of ownership, etc. But none of the claims made were supported by the facts offered. Maybe it *is* a spoof. ;-) It wasn't dated April 1, though. I found the slap against intrusion prevention to be really weird -- if by this we mean running audits (w/nessus et al) and hardening systems or shutting off vulnerable services. Also, there's only so much you can spend on firewalls -- and it's not an either/or spending decision, and those of us *with* firewalls are pursuing security in depth, and want host and network IDS, too. It's a standard journalistic pose to debunk hype -- since Gartner was responsible for so much of it during the Dot Com Bubble, maybe this is their bid to regain credibility? They want to claim that their hype cycles are a valuation tool for technology companies. Can you cure voodoo with voodoo? Who's hyping what here? Gartner Hype Cycle for Information Security, 2003 Price: US $ 495.00 Pages: 12 Dada is not dead -- watch your overcoat! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Attend the Black Hat Briefings & Training, July 28 - 31 in Las Vegas, the world's premier technical IT security event! 10 tracks, 15 training sessions, 1,800 delegates from 30 nations including all of the top experts, from CSO's to "underground" security specialists. See for yourself what the buzz is about! Early-bird registration ends July 3. This event will sell out. www.blackhat.com
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- Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Anton Chuvakin (Jun 13)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me adam (Jun 14)
- Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Remko Lodder (Jun 18)
- Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Paul Schmehl (Jun 18)
- Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Remko Lodder (Jun 18)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jerry M. Howell II (Jun 14)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Michael Sierchio (Jun 17)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Paul Schmehl (Jun 17)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me George W. Capehart (Jun 17)
- Gartner comments (was Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Randy Taylor (Jun 17)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me broyds (Jun 14)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Mike Lyman (Jun 17)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Jim Butterworth (Jun 17)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Angel Rivera (Jun 17)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Mike Lyman (Jun 17)
- RE: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Roger A. Grimes (Jun 17)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Bill Royds (Jun 17)
- RE: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Roger A. Grimes (Jun 17)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me adam (Jun 14)