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Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection
From: Blake Matheny <bmatheny () mkfifo net>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:32:02 -0400
Two areas that I have recently been doing research in, are views and their connection to correlation techniques. In terms of systems, given some event, the information we get about the occurrence of such an event comes to us in the form of either a primary or a secondary view. Information about secondary views typically come to us from applications such as firewalls and ID systems. Primary information usually is received from the application actually processing this data for use. For instance, an ID sensor may produce an alert about some traffic. However, this is a secondary view of the event and needs to be correlated with other, relevant information. So of course firewall logs might be checked, to see if traffic actually passed that corresponds to the event in question. This is also a secondary view, so a third place is checked, the applications logs. There are really several issues here. First of all, a tremendous amount of time is being spent, trying to correlate all the relevant information. This is something that _can_ be automated. Second, the applications logs may not be trustworthy. Third, and to me, most importantly, is the fact that this is such a 'basic' thing that people using ID systems have to do, and there is no piece of software yet that does this. So something we have been working on, is a system to deal with this basic type of scenario. This will entail data transformations into an intermediary language, an event description language, offline state analysis and several other components (there is more information at http://www.nongnu.org/babe/). If you spend some time thinking about everything involved to do this in a scalable fashion, it's an enormous task (I said basic, not simple). What I am finding frustrating, is that much of the base research has not yet even been done. Much of the research that has been done, is either too primitive or too impractical to be implemented. Is this due to the infancy and immaturity of the field, do people not see this as being feasible and therefor aren't spending the research time, or is this simply too far down the line? In any case, feedback welcome. Thanks. Cheers, -Blake -- Blake Matheny "... one of the main causes of the fall of the bmatheny () mkfifo net Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had http://www.mkfifo.net no way to indicate successful termination of http://ovmj.org/GNUnet/ their C programs." --Robert Firth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attend the Black Hat Briefings & Training, July 28 - 31 in Las Vegas, the world's premier technical IT security event! 10 tracks, 15 training sessions, 1,800 delegates from 30 nations including all of the top experts, from CSO's to "underground" security specialists. See for yourself what the buzz is about! Early-bird registration ends July 3. This event will sell out. www.blackhat.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Blake Matheny (Jun 17)
- RE: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Jim Butterworth (Jun 17)
- Re: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection SecurIT Informatique Inc. (Jun 17)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection DAVID MARKLE (Jun 17)
- Re: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Stephen P. Berry (Jun 18)
- RE: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection David Markle (Jun 18)
- Re: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Stephen P. Berry (Jun 22)
- Re: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Blake Matheny (Jun 22)
- Re: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Stephen P. Berry (Jun 18)
- Re: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Blake Matheny (Jun 18)
- RE: Views and Correlation in Intrusion Detection Rob Shein (Jun 22)