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Re: IPv6
From: Kerry Milestone <km4 () sanger ac uk>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:41:13 +0000
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I can't help but think that it'll be the consumerist products which eventually drive demand for it. Having an IPv6 address on rfid tags or hard coded in consumer items such as microwaves for warranty repairs etc, prescription drug packaging etc - being able to trace the entire life of a product. Things like 'smart' fridges will be useful and every device connected to the Home Area Network (The HAN - why not? ;) and tunnelled back to the mothership to state the refrigerant pressure is down. Until there is a real financial gain and ROI to be made it's really just an academic exercise. Change needs to be driven from the top down with a real incentive for a paradigm shift, and FUD about 'the internet running out' doesn't really help the cause as IPv6 is not just about 'more addresses'. Traditional internet devices alone I don't think are enough to demand IPv6 as indeed NAT does allow thousands of devices behind it, and many devices (such as many consumer DSL subscribers) do not need direct routes. I do fear a bit however that there will be a 'Premium' internet where institutions like FaceBook have their traffic on a much higher priority route to clients (you have a subscription to the 'network') so people will simply stop using 'out-site' systems and their users internet will be contained within the ecosystem - just see the amount of companies with the 'join us on facebook' running competitions etc tv ads. At the moment, the only real working incentive/need seems to be to directly peer with China internet or of course HPC and connecting to various computing grids. As for vendors, it seems at the moment that if you want to really work well and be flexible with IPv6 is to build your own devices and run free software with high end commodity cards. I'm not willing to state my experiences with various vendor equipment trails on this list, alas experience has shown that being IPv6 'enabled' on the glossy pamphlets doesn't sometimes mean 'working'. (sorry to quote wikipedia directly - i know, i know... bit lazy) The origins of CNGI date to 2001 when 57 members of the Chinese Academy of Science and Chinese Academy of Engineering wrote a letter to the State Council recommending construction of the next generation academic Internet. In 2002 the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) organized a study of the topic, and in 2003 the study group submitted a strategic report. After authorization, the CNGI was then launched under the auspices of eight ministries: NDRC as the lead, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Information Industry, the State Council Information Office, Chinese Academy of Science, Chinese Academy of Engineering, and the National Natural Science Foundation. As of October 2009, the CNGI effort comprises six nationwide backbone networks and 39 GigaPOPs, which extends the next generation footprint to over 20 major cities and over 300 academic, industrial, and government research campuses within China. Five backbones are commercial (operated by China Telecom, China Unicom, China Netcom/CSTNET, China Mobile, and China Railcom), with an additional academic research network operated by CERNET, which is known as CNGI-CERNET2. CNGI also encompasses two exchange points (IX) in Beijing (named CNGI-6IX) and Shanghai for interconnecting these backbones and for international links to APAN, GEANT, and Internet2. On 07/01/11 00:00, Paul Melson wrote:
On Thursday, January 6, 2011, Dave Piscitello <dave@corecom.If ever the phrase "living on borrowed time" applied to the Internet, it might be now. Many organizations are approaching a time when they may have to accept a weaker security deployment in order to add systems because they won't be able to obtain IPv4 addresses.
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Current thread:
- Re: IPv6, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Dave Piscitello (Jan 11)
- Re: IPv6 Kerry Milestone (Jan 11)
- Re: IPv6 Dave Brockman (Jan 12)
- Re: IPv6 Morrow Long (Jan 15)