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Re: 10Gb Firewalls


From: "Mathew Want" <imortl1 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:00:50 +1000

Just my $AU0.02 worth.

Netscreen 5200/5400 are 10Gb/30Gb "capable" respectivly.

http://www.juniper.net/products_and_services/firewall_slash_ipsec_vpn/netscreen_5200_slash_netscreen_5400/

Not sure how you would get "wire speed" on them though as 10Gb is only
on fibre  ;-)

M@

2008/4/30 Fetch, Brandon <bfetch () tpg com>:
Apart from the recommendations you've seen suggested, perhaps your
 desire for the 10Gb firewall could be better addressed with a
 re-thinking of your design/architecture?

 You mention iSCSI traffic - passing that type of latency-sensitive
 traffic through a firewall would be a serious negative in my opinion.
 I'd bet $2 (or a single quid to you :) ) any iSCSI vendor would have
 fits troubleshooting an issue if you told them it was passing through a
 firewall.

 I guess that's where I'm pointing you is to reevaluate what/where you
 need to define access rules and determine whether you'd be better suited
 to using something other than a L3/4 device to segment/isolate traffic
 or access.

 If you're looking at running a consolidated SAN between a number of
 "limited" systems you've merely shifted your risk from IP/network to
 disk/SAN.  Who's to say you couldn't get someone trying to elevate their
 level of access via the fiber-channel medium versus breaking through the
 Ethernet layer?

 Anyway - I think instead of trying to find the biggest hammer to strike
 all your little nails at one time, you might want to consider putting
 them into different boards in your house.

 HTH,
 Brandon


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 [mailto:firewall-wizards-bounces () listserv icsalabs com] On Behalf Of
 Kerry Milestone
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:36 AM
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 Subject: [fw-wiz] 10Gb Firewalls



Hello kind Wizards,

 I am investigating the possibilities of putting a firewall on the end of

 a 10Gb link.  I'd like to be able to inspect at 10Gb wirespeed.  As this

 is a scoping project (though it _has_ to happen due to the nature of
 projects in the institute), cost is not the main issue.  I've come
 across the Nortel Switched Firewall 6000, however this 'only' does 6Gb
 throughput.

 Alternatively, we have several firewalls which work at 1Gb and are
 wondering if its a better to chanelize [sic] and put say 10 firewalls
 each dealing with different traffic.  In coming years, IP based VPN's to

 other sites will become more used - and more 10Gb links to site perhaps
 building up to a 40Gb WAN backbone.  We currently have an IDS which will

 can handle this much volume.

 The next question, is extending the SAN.  If using iSCSI, is it better
 to leave this traffic off the firewall and just route it through, say a
 GRE tunnel without encryption?

 Would be keen to hear any thoughts on the theory of what I want to do.
 Implementation is not so difficult, really after some 'best practices'
 thoughts.


 Many thanks,
 Kerry.




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