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Re: router with 2 redundant inferfaces
From: "Paul D. Robertson" <paul () compuwar net>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:38:46 -0400 (EDT)
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008, shadow floating wrote:
Hi guys, my company is having 2 leased lines internet connections and they were about to buy two routers to make them standby to each other, each with one of the internet connections, as they were discussing with some network consultant...he convinced them to reduce cost and put 2 wics in one router only each connected to the each internet connection instead of buying 2 routers....is that appropriate??
It's been a while since I did a fully redundant configuration, but the principle points of failure are normally the same: 1. Power circuit. 2. Physical environment. 3. Backup power 4. Path into building. 5. Carrier/path. 6. Addressing. If you're looking for redundancy, then two routers make more sense, but you're still likely to have single points of failure in most environments- so likelyhood of failure tends to be important. 1. Are both routers on the same power circuit? This is an easy thing to fix and guards against circuit-level failures. 2. Is it necessary to guard against local events like fire/water damage by splitting physical faclilities or rooms? 3. Are you plugging things into a single UPS or generator circuit? Is that appropriate for your environment? 4. Are you getting all your circuits down one path from the street to your facility? When I've been involved in new building design, we've specified dual paths into the building for carrier access, one carrier per path so that JBO (Joe Backhoe Operator) can't kill coms with one swoop. What sort of service also starts to impact this, though moreso on voice (SONNET rings are a good thing, as is foreign exchange fail-over from your telco.) 5. Single carriers terminating at single routers in single facilities aren't good for redundancy. Multiple carriers who use the same fiber path also aren't. In the US, it's getting more difficult to get access to carrier's fiber maps, so eliminating SPFs isn't always easy, especially if you're somewhere that has limited long-haul circuits due to terrain or cost issues (see Baltimore tunnel fire event a few years back.) 6. If you want it to be complete, you need to advertise the same address space with each carrier. If you're really paranoid, get addressing from each carrier, make them share routing for each other's blocks and dual-address or NAT each device. Easier is split addressing with DNS server zones for each address block, but it doesn't fail over, but it's interesting load sharing. If you have local environmental issues (power, cooling, dust, power spike on line...) that make a router failure more likley, then dual routers are cheap (depending on pipe size) insurance. You can save even more money by not having the extra connection- I'm guessing that someone's already made that call, so what criteria was it made under? What was the business case, and how does a single router impact that case? Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions paul () compuwar net which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." http://www.fluiditgroup.com/blog/pdr/ Art: http://PaulDRobertson.imagekind.com/ _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () listserv icsalabs com https://listserv.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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