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Re: FW appliance comparison - Seeking input for the forum
From: sai <sonicsai () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:06:04 +0500
On 1/20/06, david_harris () arnotts com <david_harris () arnotts com> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, sai wrote:on firewall if you really want all-in-one boxes. Why would you want an IDS on the same machine as a firewall? Its not going to work. It will not have enough signatures to give you the sort of security you need.[What the heck, no interesting debate in a while...] I think there's a bigger question "why would you want an IDS?" AFAICT, IDS's are only good for (a) stopping stuff your firewall rules should already stop or (b) stopping known-bad stuff you have to let in that almost always have patches or work-arounds and (c) if you're regulated into them (i.e. HIPPA.)I think it should be re-iterated that the D in IDS is 'Detection'. Alot of people are using this term very loosely of late. I agree that IDS is a waste of time except if you need to provide glossy feel good reports to mgmt. Then theyr'e great!
Ignorance is strenght? No way! IDS should help you figure out what is happening on your network and its environs. Unfortunately keeping the IDS updated takes time and/or money , plus you have to look at (and understand) the reports (more time and effort). Most people are able to get on with their jobs without knowing what has attacked them, but its certainly good to know. sai _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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