Re: MJR on Linux/OSS

["R. DuFresne" <dufresne () sysinfo com>]

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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:

> > So, marcus, which dist did you end up with? <smirk>
>
> I couldn't find my BSDI disks.  :(
> So I would up using RedHat ES. And, of course, the BSD-db
> code that built fine on Fedora didn't work right on it for mysterious
> pthreads-related reasons that I refuse to take the time to figure out.
> Why should I have to?
>
> What the Open Source advocates just don't seem to get is
> that "fragmentation" didn't just *happen*.  I think it's pathetic
> that people are now arguing about how to converge on a
> common Linux interface spec. Excuse me? There was
> one Linux spec, back when Linux came out.

The spec seems to me, and I've discussed this with Patrick Volkerding, who 
seems to feel the same is that the specs is more a "let's define red-hat 
as the defacto linux spec".

        [SNIP]

> Aside from ego-reasons, who needs 60 different versions
> of UNIX? Scott McNealy was right when he suggested, "all
> the wood behind one arrow" - I suspect that most UNIX
> users would be thrilled to death if there was just one darned
> UNIX again. I wouldn't care which. I can adapt O/S knowledge
> in a couple weeks. I just don't want to do it every week. :)
>
> Bah, this is a useless discussion. Everyone wants to
> reach for immortality by being a contributor in "the big thing"
> it's not actually about accomplishing an objective, it's
> about posing, stylin' and having fun on the journey. :( A
> bunch of amateurs is not going to beat Microsoft, no
> matter how much I wish they could.


What I've found interesting is SUN's adoption of much of what is open 
source in their latest offerings, openssh/ssl, wu_ftpd...  Has anyone had 
time to ascertain how much SUN is now really opensource?  How about the 
other vendors these days? < we're a pretty much SUN/AIX exclusive site 
where I reside now, with fingers being poked into linux >  I'm not referring 
to emulation to merely run binaries < if compiled with that vendors 
preferred dist of linux or BSD > but replacing their packages and tools 
with opensource ones?

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
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