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Re: Linux Firewall on CD
From: Paul Robertson <proberts () patriot net>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:29:03 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
Depends on how it's done, really. The CD bootable systems I used to build chrooted off the RAM disk onto the CD image, so there was no RAM disk to mess with, and there weren't any device nodes except
RAM disk, my own program to store code- it's really moot, however if I can create a new RAM disk (and the point was that the kernel really wanted the RAM disk stuff built in- so I can always create a new one if I can get to a mount point.
for the bare minimum since the device nodes needed to mount the CD and hard disk were back in the RAM disk behind the chroot. If you mount the hard disk noexec, and the CD image isn't writeable, it's
Noexec is useless, you can use the loader to execute anything off the disk, and if you don't have the loader, you're not going to be running much. If you could get rid of, or compartment out /dev, then the jail would be more interesting- though I admit to not having looked at what devfs brings to the table in terms of not needing to allow device nodes on a disk or RAM disk.
pretty hard to screw around with the system. Of course, one can always conjure up a scenario involving an infinitely clever attacker exploiting an infinite number of design flaws so in theory no firewall will ever be secure.
Again, the real game is going through the firewall- these days the way most are deployed, there's not much to be gained on the firewall, unless the attacker wants an open relay for spamming. Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions proberts () patriot net which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." probertson () trusecure com Director of Risk Assessment TruSecure Corporation _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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