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Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not
From: Adam Shostack <adam () homeport org>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:44:24 -0500
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 08:01:20PM -0500, Harry Tabak wrote: | Crispin Cowan wrote: | > Personally, I use CISSP as a filter for who *not* to hire, as in "if | > they have a CISSP, I don't hire them". Rationalle: we do advanced R&D, | > so I'm shopping for brilliance, not competence & willingness to do | > drugery with dilligence. The CISSP (hopefully :-) assures a minimum | > level of competence, but IMHO the social filter of those who seek such | > certification makes them unlikely to be a brilliant innovater. | | But would the resume of someone with "brilliance" get past the HR | gatekeeper without the magic keywords of "CISSP" or "PhD"? Assuming | that you were with an organization that was sufficiently large to | require an HR Dept, and assuming that you were too busy to personally | screen a few hundred resumes. I've been rejected by potential employers for not having a college degree. I was irked at the time, but thinking back, it's a useful two way filter. If you don't want to hire me because of that, after your employees invite me in, I don't want to work for you. The situation is slightly different moving internationally; dumb bureaucrats exist in immigration agencies everywhere, and you can't filter where you're going to live on that. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://list.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: (no subject) H. Morrow Long (Nov 23)
- Re: (no subject) John Adams (Nov 23)
- Contract Rates & CISSP or not David Hawley (Nov 23)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not R. DuFresne (Nov 25)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Darren Reed (Nov 26)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Crispin Cowan (Nov 27)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Drew - Home (Nov 28)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Crispin Cowan (Nov 29)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Harry Tabak (Nov 28)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Darren Reed (Nov 28)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Adam Shostack (Nov 29)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not R. DuFresne (Nov 25)
- RE: Contract Rates & CISSP or not David Hawley (Nov 28)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Andy Nold (Nov 29)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Darren Reed (Nov 29)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Andy Nold (Nov 30)
- Re: Contract Rates & CISSP or not Darren Reed (Nov 30)