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Re: Any reason not to use PIX ?


From: "Bill Pennington" <bpennington () lucidnetworks com>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:30:41 -0800

I love the Pix firewall. It is very easy to setup and maintain especially if
you already know IOS. They have some new GUI software for config and
monitoring that runs on NT. It is supposed to be pretty good although I have
not used it. It takes about 10 minutes to setup then you can just forget
about it. Just monitor the logs (get Webtrends for Firewalls and VPNs) and
you are done. One thing to note the Pix works best if you use NAT, non-NATed
configs can be a pain in the rear from my experience but it could be that I
have only run into one of them and was kinda freaked :-)

On the other hand NT can be made pretty secure if you know what you are
doing so I would not dismiss it completely, just almost completely :-)

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any more questions.

Bill Pennington
Consultant
Lucid NetworX


----- Original Message -----
From: Gledson Pompeu Correa Da Costa <GledsonPC () TCU gov br>
To: <firewall-wizards () nfr net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:23 AM
Subject: Any reason not to use PIX ?


Hi there,

I'm a long time reader of the list, and finally have a question to
submit to all gurus out there. The explanation is a bit long, but I hope
it
serves well the purpose of presenting the case.

The situation:

We have a strictly NT based network running intranet, internet and
extranet (public services) out of IIS servers, and our Internet connection
is currently protected by two Free-BSD machines - one for proxying general
connections in and out of our internal net, and one for serving web pages
out of our IIS servers through reverse proxy.

The problem:

Our general knowledge of Unix is low: in a support team of 10, 2
have a small experience and only 1 is somewhat knowledgeable in the
platform
(somewhat knowledgeable meaning installs the system and does the
recommended
tweaking mostly following scripts and how-to's). As you know, if you have
only 1 person who knows a critical job, you're in trouble... Besides that,
our training budget is low, so we must focus on technologies that support
our core business (like NT and Oracle).
So, we wish to establish a new firewall system that is not based on
any variant of Unix. On the other hand, we are not confortable to place a
firewall running on NT due to the frequency it gets bashed by hacker
groups
to find new exploits.

The question (finally):

Since Unix and NT are out, we are considering placing a Cisco
PIX-515 at the core of our firewall, together with two Cisco choke routers
to manage the inside and outside connections. The reasons for the choice
are:

1 - It runs on a distinct platform from NT and Unix (IOS)
2 - In our team of 10, 9 are already trained in IOS (at various
levels)
3 - We consider it to be a secure platform

SO, is there any reason not to use PIX (like major holes or other
problems with the product) ? Are there better alternatives in the "black
box" division ?

Thanks in advance for all your answers.

Sincerely yours,
Gledson Pompeu
TCU / SEINF / SENET
Internet Service Manager

"Smart people talk about ideas;
 Common people talk about facts;
 Mediocre people talk about people"





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