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Re: Gauntlet adaptive proxies
From: "Dale Lancaster" <dlancaster () raptor com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:07:28 -0600
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Michael <cm () rmsbus com> To: firewall-wizards () nfr net <firewall-wizards () nfr net> Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 12:14 PM Subject: Gauntlet adaptive proxies
What do folks make of Gauntlet's adaptive proxies that got best of show at Networld+Interop? As I understand it the proxies can be configured to switch over to packet filtering after the intitial connection has been set up thus preserving a lot of the security while increasing the speed. Press release is at: http://www.nai.com/about/news/press/1998/october/102898.asp Chris
Its not a new technology for firewalls, just new to Gauntlet. The same basic feature is available on CISCO PIX as "Cut-through Proxy", announced about 18 months ago. AXENT Raptor Firewall has had it for about 9 months, known as "Fastpath". For CISCO it was added to their stateful architecture as a means to add user authentication to a connection and still do stateful packet filtering, no significant application level filtering was being done with the "proxy" portion. For Raptor, done to give a performance boost. I will grant NA the honor of doing a good marketing job on a technology that is not new, but has been positioned against stateful packet filtering in a positive way. Reading the PR closely it does state they were a Finalist for N+I Best of Show, not the actual winner of the award (unless all the finalist are the winners, not sure how that works). I am surprised in the announcement that they claim it "took years of research" - seems like a long time to figure this out. Overall, its a great feature to have for both stateful and proxy firewalls. It allows you to authenticate a connection, do the basic logging and then, if your security policy and comfort level allows, let's you gain the performance advantange of not doing any content scanning of the packets that flow through. Once the packets start streaming through at the packet layer, its fundamentally equivalent to what you get with stateful packet filtering firewalls - no significant (or any) application level scanning of content, but a stateful connection with address hiding/NAT. So, in essence, you have the best of both worlds with an application level firewall that has this feature, complete proxy, application aware filtering and/or just your basic stateful packet filtering - whatever suites your fancy. I am not sure with Gauntlet how much application level filtering it does, if it doesn't do much more than poke the connection through, it might be worth sticking with the Adaptive Proxy on all connections. IMHO, this feature isn't worth using (a least on the Raptor Firewall) until you need significant performance in the 25 to 30 Mbit/sec and above range. Below that range, the application level proxies (mainly HTTP and FTP) can keep up (obviously platform dependent), with the added benefit of signficant protocol and application specific checks (meaing, that application specific attacks are filtered out, not virus scanning and the like). regards, dale ============================================= Dale Lancaster Director of Technical Marketing AXENT Technologies =============================================
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