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Re: Web server inside the firewall


From: Bennett Todd <bet () mordor net>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:07:12 -0500

I agree with the comments I've seen others make on this thread (in short:
Don't Do It). Just wanted to add one little note:

1998-11-30-14:34:13 Kevin Tyrrell:
I have been getting pressure lately to have a web server moved from the DMZ
to behind the firewall. The reasoning is this will make it easier to access
databases on our internal network.

Yup. The idea of the firewall is to prevent access to goo on your internal
network, from the outside; the people who are applying this pressure are
saying they want you to remove the firewall.

A web server is very, very hard to secure, since it offers in general the
richest and most flexible service offering of the standard types of servers.
There's a very good chance your server has lethal holes in it now, so that it
can be burgled from the outside. Move it inside the firewall leaving a hole
behind it, and burgling your web server will constitute violating your
security perimeter, cutting past the firewall.

If you can't block this, then I'd recommend finding a new job, and in your
exit interview encouraging whoever picks things up to just remove the
firewall, since it's not going to be protecting your internal network any
more.

Publicly-visible web servers belong out in the DMZ. Data they need to interact
with belongs out on the DMZ. Imports and exports need to go through
outbound-only encrypted tunnels (e.g. ssh) originated from the inside. If you
need to gather high-security data (e.g. CC #s on an e-commerce site) have the
web server immediately pass them on to a high-security drop box out in the
DMZ, then have a periodic polling process from the inside pick them up and do
your e-commerce things to them, and send order tracking status info back out
to the public server.

-Bennett



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