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Re: IP in IP and FW1


From: keithcha () clark net
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:07:28 -0400

At 05:36 PM 9/23/97 +1000, you wrote:
Hi

Hi,

I have been asked to advise on a problem with a RFC1918 subnet that needs
to communicate with the Internet via FW-1 and NAT. 

A picture is worth a thousand words, so:

                           Internet
                              ^
                              |
    NET1 ------ R1 ---------- R2 ---- FW1------ NET2

The main complication here is that both NET1 and NET2 are using RFC1918
addresses, and R2 also has the default route to the internet.  Ideally
Internet traffic from FW1 SecuRemote clients on NET1 would be directed to
the FW1 and NATed to assigned address space before venturing to the
internet.

Anyone know if/how IP packets from NET1 can be *encapsulated* in FW1-1

One way would be to change the architecture so that FW-1 would use more
than 2 interfaces and move the segment from net1 and r1 to the firewall's
third interface. 
Otherwise, I don't see how the traffic for net1 would
ever pass through fw-1 unless destined for net2

Of course I may be missing something here ... the day is
still young.

SecuRemote (as distinct from, and in addition to being encrypted) for
transport to NET2 and only then turned around to be NATed in FW1-2 before
finally making it to the Internet (obviously the reverse route needs to
work too ;-)? 

Taking FW-1 documentation at face value, this may not be doable with just
FW1 (as they claim to merely encrypt the payload of each IP packet, and
diligently leave the IP headers untouched - but the documentation appears
a little vague in this respect). Any contrary opinions and/or experiences
would be most welcome. 

It is possible that the documentation may be correct here.  I have not read
it and am not a firewall-1 wizard.  Good luck

char



TIA,
Neale.
(another apprentice wizard)

PS: yes, we realise the whole problem would go away by *exclusively* using
proxys (proxies?) on NET2 or the subnet between R2 and FW1 (or a tunnel
terminating on NET2), but that's not the question we are grappling with.






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