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Re: Interesting Research
From: "King, Ronald A." <raking () NSU EDU>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 18:53:57 +0000
Thank you all for responding. This is great info I will be sharing with the researcher, our IRB, our CIO and possibly legal. Some quick replies to questions: * The IRB has yet to approve this research. * Using a tool to analyze a password to detect strength: the idea of the research is to see if training on strong passwords paid off. Such a tool may or may not work as I would think we would need to know the strength before and after the training. * I am not sure why they need username. I will follow up. * I hadn't thought of the privacy impact, but, now that I have, the risk has grown. o (I foresee) Then getting consent or warning the student ahead of time would logically lead to a student adapting momentarily and invalidating the research. * I do not know if the VCR/VPR is involved in this. Our CIO knows and is of the same mindset I am. I still keep coming back to the password reuse. In my 3 months back here, I have talked with one student who's banking info was changed in our student system. Should this DB end up in the wrong hands, it will get worse. Reading list (Thank you much for these!): https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1242661 (Microsoft password reuse, 2006) https://www.blaseur.com/papers/chi16-pwperceptions.pdf, "Do Users' Perceptions of Password Security Match Reality?" http://www.cs.unc.edu/~reiter/papers/2010/CCS.pdf, "The Security of Modern Password Expiration: An Algorithmic Framework and Empirical Analysis" https://www.cs.umd.edu/~jkatz/security/downloads/passwords_revealed-weir.pdf, "Testing Metrics for Password Creation Policies by Attacking Large Sets of Revealed Passwords" https://www.nsf.gov/bfa/dias/policy/human.jsp (NSF Human Use) https://www.slideshare.net/JISC/password-lifespans-at-ucl-a-training-opportunity, (UCL in the UK sliding scale of password strength and renewal time frame) Thanks again for all the valuable input! Ron Ronald King Chief Information Security Officer Office of Information Technology (757) 823-2916 (Office) raking () nsu edu<mailto:raking () nsu edu> www.nsu.edu<http://www.nsu.edu/> @NSUCISO (Twitter) [NSU_logo_horiz_tag_4c - Smaller] From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> On Behalf Of King, Ronald A. Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:01 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [SECURITY] Interesting Research Fellow security pros, I have an interesting research request come in my inbox today. A researcher wants to setup a portal for students to self-register with a username and password. The kicker is passwords will be stored in plain text and collected. The premise is to gauge whether students are actually adhering to suggested practices in password design. My first reaction is "(heck) no," but I realize I may be overreacting. So, I decided to see if anyone has dealt with this kind of research and how you handled it. While I see the value in the research, my security senses tell me students will be using their standard password they use for everything. Thus big risk. Feel free to contact me directly. Thank you, Ron Ronald King Chief Information Security Officer Office of Information Technology (757) 823-2916 (Office) raking () nsu edu<mailto:raking () nsu edu> www.nsu.edu<http://www.nsu.edu/> @NSUCISO (Twitter) [NSU_logo_horiz_tag_4c - Smaller]
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