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Re: Restricting PC Admin Rights
From: Frank Barton <bartonf () HUSSON EDU>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 15:19:48 -0400
Rick, one thing to keep in mind that we've run across is software licensing. We have many a faculty member that is also a student at another institution (I'm pretty sure this is very common). As such they may have a license for, say, MatLab. However, that license does not allow it to be run on our computers. Along a similar line "free for personal use" licenses can be problematic also. keeping a list of approved, and licensed software is important, as is having a protocol to follow for new software requests (and avoiding software sprawl) Frank On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Richard Gould <Richard.Gould () asu edu> wrote:
Having just transitioned jobs here at Arizona State University I can feel the pain of not having admin rights in attempting to install the necessary software to perform my job. I completely agree with the principal of removing admin rights, however, as previously stated, make the help desk and supporting personnel understand and are responsive to assisting users when and where ever they may be. I believe demonstrating this support is crucial to having this type of policy being accepted. Best Regards, Rick Richard (Rick) Gould OKED Information Security Officer ASU Office of Knowledge Enterprise Development Advancing Research, Entrepreneurship and Economic Development Research Technology Office researchmatters.asu.edu <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__researchmatters.asu.edu&d=DwMF-g&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=c49WKrLuBs_RS3iFgcttCRJLUcbz3dhBrUZyg1_CcHU&m=1UMdcbMXB44k1Ov8WbhVfIlU3_rwIvrNy5nMllmBvQw&s=HOcoPhigIBGeznO2FdHvnO1hSteEvaa_fS-3I0pQEJE&e=> | research.asu.edu <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__research.asu.edu&d=DwMF-g&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=c49WKrLuBs_RS3iFgcttCRJLUcbz3dhBrUZyg1_CcHU&m=1UMdcbMXB44k1Ov8WbhVfIlU3_rwIvrNy5nMllmBvQw&s=5LabnE1-iCE6H-IzDJhYuC4gcLg_9lWi7x_CiSHIJVs&e=> ------------------------------ *From:* Richard Gould *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 11:44:19 AM *To:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Restricting PC Admin Rights Having just transitioned jobs here at Arizona State University I can feel the pain of not having admin rights in attempting to install the necessary software to perform my job. I completely agree with the principal of removing admin rights, however, as previously stated, make the help desk and supporting personnel understand and are responsive to assisting users when and where ever they may be. I believe demonstrating this support is crucial to having this type of policy being accepted. Best Regards, Rick Richard (Rick) Gould OKED Information Security Officer ASU Office of Knowledge Enterprise Development Advancing Research, Entrepreneurship and Economic Development Research Technology Office researchmatters.asu.edu | research.asu.edu ------------------------------ *From:* The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv < SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> on behalf of Boyd, Daniel <dboyd () BERRY EDU*Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 11:35:48 AM *To:* SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU *Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Restricting PC Admin Rights I am about to take up this fight at my institution. I’ll also be closely watching this thread and would also appreciate any input on strategy and marketing that anyone can offer, as I am rather new at this job (only six weeks in and already going for the heavyweights…). I would be glad to take any conversations offline and would report back a summary to the list, if anyone is interested. Dan Daniel H. Boyd (94C) Director of Information Security Office for Information Technology Information Security Advisory Group Chair Berry College Phone: 706-236-1750 Fax: 706-238-5824 There are two rules to follow with your account passwords: 1. NEVER SHARE YOUR PASSWORDS WITH ANYONE (EVEN OIT!!!!) 2. If unsure, consult rule #1 *From:* Davis, Chris <CDavis () LOURDES EDU> *Sent:* Monday, August 13, 2018 12:03 PM *Subject:* Re: [External Sender] [SECURITY] Restricting PC Admin Rights For such an easy security measure, this always creates havoc. On the IT side of things, so many things can be prevented with a least privilege model. However, from the other side of the house, we always meet huge resistance because we are “taking away admin rights” from our users. People feel like we don’t trust them. And from a certain point of view that is right. In the security world, we should not trust anyone. But at the same time, the people I really don’t trust are those that are targeting our employees. So, this is measure that gives some quick security at no cost, other than a change in the way our users do things. I will be watching this thread closely. Chris *Christopher Davis, Ph.D.* Chief Information Officer Assistant Professor of Education Apple Teacher Lourdes University 6832 Convent Blvd <https://maps.google.com/?q=6832+Convent+Blvd&entry=gmail&source=g> | REH 003P | Sylvania, OH 43560 cdavis () lourdes edu *CyberAware – Be aware. Stay Secure!* Lourdes University will never ask you to send sensitive information through unsecure channels. 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On Aug 13, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Pardonek, Jim <jpardonek () LUC EDU> wrote: Not sure if there is somewhere else I can get this info, I’m sure it’s been asked before, but I am checking to see how many of your institutions restrict admin rights. We are putting a proposal together to leadership to do exactly that as we have had a number of folks fall for scams that involve the installation of software on their PCs. Thanks, *James Pardonek, MS, CISSP, CEH, GSNA* *Information Security Officer* * Loyola University Chicago 1032 W. 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- Re: Restricting PC Admin Rights Ronald King (Aug 20)
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- Re: Restricting PC Admin Rights Joanna Grama (Aug 13)
- Re: Restricting PC Admin Rights Seymour, Patrick (Aug 13)
- Re: [External Sender] [SECURITY] Restricting PC Admin Rights Davis, Chris (Aug 13)
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