Re: HECVAT Security Assessment Question

[Shelton Waggener <swaggener () INTERNET2 EDU>]

At Internet2, it is our intention to require HECVAT from every provider, without exception, if they want to move 
forward with full service validation for participation in our national cloud service offering efforts (NET+). Since we 
have about 1600 campuses now eligible to subscribe to those services that should help push the broader provider 
community in the direction. In the case where IBM (or similar) says “We have tons of documentation that covers this 
already” we would likely have to develop a mapping activity so we can still use HECVAT as the master document, even if 
in some cases it is functions as an Index.  I will be working with Nick Lewis and the Educause team on that process so 
we can make all those documents available to all interested campuses.

For the stuff that’s under NDA, we already have a process to put those materials in a view only credential walled 
environment so might be good to test that out with a company like IBM on the process for access.

Shel

Shelton Waggener
Senior Vice President
Internet2

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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> on behalf of Sue McGlashan 
<sue.mcglashan () UTORONTO CA>
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Date: Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 7:27 AM
To: "SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU" <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] HECVAT Security Assessment Question

IBM (one of their solutions) politely refused to complete the HECVAT, even though we told them this would be one 
document for many institutions. (See end)

So, I agree with the longer-term goal of a central repository that we can point vendors to, and they can use to market. 
 A central repository was discussed at the Educause conference - if I remember correctly, the comment was as yet there 
is no solution, mostly because of resources.
It is a pity that the default in the HECVAT is to not allow sharing of the HECVAT with other institutions.  Vendors 
should notice, and change to not share, if they do not want to share. (I expect there was lots of discussion about the 
default).

For completeness, IBM linked me to documents they already had (many). I also found their CSA CAIQ, so between their 
standard documentation and the CAIQ, and the ability to request some documentation under NDA, I have more than enough 
material.  In other words, I understood their reluctance.
It is the smaller companies in the education space that I think will particularly benefit from a one-document-for-many 
strategy. Many do not have standard documentation.

--
Sue McGlashan,
Information Security Architect, ISEA
University of Toronto
416-946-3260



From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> on behalf of Velislav K 
Pavlov <VelislavPavlov () FERRIS EDU>
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Date: Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 9:05 AM
To: "SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU" <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] HECVAT Security Assessment Question

It would be convenient to have a centralized repository. We were using CSA STAR to assess hosted solutions. The benefit 
of CSA STAR is the availability of the attestation documentation so other institutions won’t have to reinvent the wheel 
and wait for request & response for information. One example is SalesForce 
https://cloudsecurityalliance.org/star-registrant/salesforce-com-inc/. The centralized repository also helps with 
version control and provides dates/times for when the attestation was last submitted/reviewed. Our University is 
supportive of HECVAT as we recognize the tailored approach to education and the benefit of information sharing within 
our community.

What we found out is that the assessment regardless if it’s CSA CCM/CAIQ or HECVAT, takes time and it’s difficult to 
convince the vendor (cybersecurity team) to go through the hundreds of questions. Where we found some success is the 
fact that once the vendor fills out the document it can benefit other institutions. It becomes marketing material for 
the vendor to acquire new business by demonstrating that they have adequate security controls to protect client data at 
rest and in transit.


Vel Pavlov | Coordinator, IT Security
M.Sc. ISM, CISSP, C|HFI, C|EH, C)PTE,
Security+, CNA, MPCS, ITILv3F, A+
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Subject: [SECURITY] HECVAT Security Assessment Question

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Good morning list mates:

We have received an email from a member looking to see if:

  1.  If any institution has a completed HECVAT for Microsoft Office 365/OneDrive, Box and ServiceNow
  2.  If the vendor’s responses for that completed HECVAT allowed sharing with other higher education institutions

If the answers to the above questions are “yes,” could you contact me off list please?  We have a member that would 
like to speak with you about your experiences.

Kind regards,
Joanna

Joanna Grama, JD, CISSP, CRISC, CIPT
Director of Cybersecurity and IT GRC Programs

EDUCAUSE
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