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Re: Issues with Xbox 360
From: Brandon Dick <bdick () MURRAYSTATE EDU>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:03:28 -0500
Same here. We have a role on our NAC assigned to gaming devices that gives them a public IP.
On 8/27/2015 7:34 AM, Kapucu, Ali wrote:
We gave up on PAT/NAT game for gaming consoles/Apple TV/Roku etc.. and created “Gaming” SSID for them. Student can register their device mac addresses and can get Public ip. — Ali On 8/26/15, 11:39 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Dan Oachs" <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU on behalf of doachs () GAC EDU> wrote:I'm sure you have all heard this a million times by now, but I'm going to repeat it anyway. I would strongly suggest investing some time in getting the game consoles onto a network that supports native IPv6 ( but don't stop there, get the whole campus moved). Xboxes like or dare I say crave IPv6 and will do everything they can to use it whether you like it or not. There are really very few excuses these days not to give it a shot. Heck, all three of our ISPs are happy to route our IPv6 traffic. --Dan On 8/26/15 10:06 PM, Gregg, Christopher S. wrote:It sounds like this might be a (temporary) service issue with Xbox Live per the previous response. However, we were the school that reported the game console NAT issues with our Palo Alto last winter. Our interim solution for spring semester was a very labor intensive 1:1 NAT solution with reserved IP addresses. Our solution for this school year is that as we have implemented Cisco ISE, the system is able to auto-profile game consoles and put them on a VLAN that uses public IP addresses while other devices on the network are assigned private IP's and NAT'd. We just went live at the beginning of August and so far, so good. Chris Chris Gregg Director of IT Information Resources and Technologies (IRT) University of St. Thomas, Minnesota csgregg () stthomas edu -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Councill, David Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:20 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [SECURITY] Issues with Xbox 360 Now that the fall semester has just started this week, I have received complaints from a number of residents of our residence halls that they are getting disconnects from Xbox Live. Getting information passed on to us can be difficult but with more information and some testing, the problem appears to only affect Xbox 360 (not Xbox 1) and only happens when more than one user tries to connect from the same dorm network. We are using PAT for each of our dorm networks, and the Microsoft answer is to open up ports on the firewall. But since we use PAT, we would still have to go to a 1:1 NAT before we could do any port forwarding. There was a discussion on similar NAT issues with Xbox early this year (January) on this list relative to using Palo Alto firewalls thus I thought I would try this list again. Right now, we are wondering why this problem just started occurring this semester as we haven't had problems in past years using PAT. The fact that it only affects the older Xboxes would indicate the issue is on Microsoft's side. Is anyone else seeing this problem? And how are you dealing with it? The only fix I see so far would be tracking the hundreds of Xboxes on campus and assigning them static or reserved IPs with a 1:1 NAT which seems to be impractical and time consuming. __ David Councill Network Security Engineer Washington State University Information Technology Building | PO Box 641222 | Pullman, WA 99164 david.councill () wsu edu
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Current thread:
- Issues with Xbox 360 Councill, David (Aug 26)
- Re: Issues with Xbox 360 Lecarla A Gilmere (Aug 26)
- Re: Issues with Xbox 360 Gregg, Christopher S. (Aug 26)
- Re: Issues with Xbox 360 Dan Oachs (Aug 26)
- Re: Issues with Xbox 360 Kapucu, Ali (Aug 27)
- Re: Issues with Xbox 360 Brandon Dick (Aug 27)
- Re: Issues with Xbox 360 Dan Oachs (Aug 26)