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Re: Rethinking the DMZ
From: Harry Hoffman <hhoffman () IP-SOLUTIONS NET>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:49:40 -0400
With a combination of GPO under Windows, and SSH/{puppet/cfengine/bcfg2}/Func/etc for *nix it becomes pretty easy to manage large numbers of systems in a reasonable manner. I would suspect that Justin's 25 servers per person might be on the low end in our environments. If you are running that many systems and aren't using something for configuration management you've probably already run afoul of many things, PCI being at least one of them. Cheers, Harry On 09/06/2012 03:42 PM, Justin Azoff wrote:
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 01:53:48PM -0400, Haines, Ena wrote:If the IT dept has 250 servers managed by 3 or 4 admins, then what? Are any of your server admin teams happy with a system for managing the "personal firewall" on each server? Can you set it locally and forget it every time you deploy a new server? Don't your port requirements change as ours do when there's an app upgrade or a middleware upgrade, etc.? Some days it seems as though it's really about manageability.I don't run 250 systems, it's closer to 25, but I easily manage the firewall rulesets on multiple servers centrally with puppet. Every service that needs a port opened pushes out a coresponding '.rules' file that gets dropped in /etc/firewall.d/. Since I set this up I haven't had to touch the firewall ruleset on an individual machine.
Current thread:
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ, (continued)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ John Hoffoss (Aug 31)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Julian Y Koh (Sep 04)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Deke Kassabian (Sep 04)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Haines, Ena (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ John Ladwig (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Mike Caudill (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Jeff Kell (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Mike Caudill (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Deke Kassabian (Sep 04)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ David Byers (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Justin Azoff (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Harry Hoffman (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Gary Flynn (Sep 06)
- Re: Rethinking the DMZ Harry Hoffman (Sep 06)