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Re: DMCA
From: John Ladwig <John.Ladwig () SO MNSCU EDU>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:11:37 +0000
One additional nuance to "blocking" P2P via certain technological means is worth mentioning. Our rateshapers have separate policy subclasses for tracker traffic and transfer traffic, for P2P protocols like Bittorrent. If you shape the superclass of Bittorrent down to an unusable level (say, 10kbps), that's still quite enough for the content owners' hired guns to determine that someone on your network is "making available" material which the hired guns believe to be copyrighted. As such, it seems possible to make Bittorrent unusable, and recapture bandwidth, and still not reduce your DMCA notice volume at all. From what I can tell, the hired guns don't even *attempt* transfers, but instead rely on offer advertisements as the basis for their takedown notices. -jml -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Doty Sent: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011 11:11 To: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv; John Ladwig Subject: Re: [SECURITY] DMCA On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 15:48 -0800, Hudson, Edward wrote:
Hi All, Polling to see how other campuses are handling DMCA take down notices. Ours has risen to a level current process is not working efficiently.
Interested to see how other institutions are addressing.
Whatever you do should be based on the needs of the university. Other places may give ideas, but ultimately it needs to fit your situation. We block by default and have an automatic exception process. The blocking is effective, but not 100%. We also have an automated process that analyzes for heavy P2P file sharing traffic and sends daily notices to the user if they have not filed an exception. We get very few DMCA notices and process them by hand. This works for us, but the hardware we use is not cheap and doesn't handle 10G which is going to be an issue for us at some point. If you opt to block P2P be aware that no solution is ever going to be 100%. There is no fundamental reason why http could not be used for P2P (and some do), and regardless encrypted 443 is pretty much universally allowed. Disallowing inbound connections is annoying, but a problem P2P file sharing applications solved a long time ago. So while blocking may be effective for you, don't count on it eliminating notices, much less P2P activity. As for ignoring notices... I'd run that by general counsel. I couldn't see ours ever permitting that, but yours may have a different opinion. Tim Doty
Current thread:
- Re: DMCA, (continued)
- Re: DMCA randy marchany (Nov 29)
- Re: DMCA Tim Doty (Nov 30)
- Re: DMCA Stoermer, Chris (Nov 29)
- Re: DMCA Valdis Kletnieks (Nov 29)
- Re: DMCA John Ladwig (Nov 30)