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Re: DMCA
From: David Gillett <gillettdavid () FHDA EDU>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:08:57 -0800
Our campus Acceptable Use Policy rests on two principles: Comply with applicable law, and don't interfere with others' access. 1. We've found that P2P applications generally, regardless of the legality of the content, try to saturate the user's Internet connection. And since some users are on ports with as much bandwidth as their entire campus has to the Internet (not as many as before our pipe got upgraded, but the next round of access-layer upgrades will boost that number right back...), a user running P2P risks clogging Internet access for the whole rest of the campus. 2. I'm sure that to the makers of WoW, making users "donate" the bandwidth needed to distribute updates, instead of purchasing it themselves, looks like a win. But our bandwidth is heavily subsidized by state taxpayers -- how does this "donation" not qualify as a taxpayer subsidy to what is, after all, a for-profit enterprise? (My understanding is that such subsidies are illegal in California -- other states may have other rules or institutional bandwidth may be funded differently.) 3. My understanding of HEOA (2009) -- I am not a lawyer, and so I welcome correction -- is that Congress "found" (established as a legal fact which should, but needn't, absolutely reflect Reality) that the raison d'être of P2P applications and protocols is to violate copyrights, and that therefore access to federal funding would be denied to institutions of higher education that do not take steps to block P2P. MAYBE one can get away with saying "P2P application XYZ managed to circumvent the measures we put in place", but I doubt that "We permit P2P app ABC because x% of the material our students download using it is not in violation of copyright" will be good enough to restore access to funding--it doesn't, as far as I can see, comply with the requirements of the Act. I do not believe I am authorized to commit civil disobedience in the name of our campuses, even if I believe Congress was mistaken. On two or three occasions, people have requested BitTorrent access to download updates for Linux-based systems. I've been ready to accommodate this on two conditions that I don't think are too onerous: that they use a static IP address so the exception can be made just for specific machines, and that they agree not to be sharing additional files beyond what those updates (see 1 above...). Strangely enough, in each case, they've gotten back to me to say that they've found a way to get the updates they need without BitTorrent -- I'm not 100% certain, but my impression is that that happened with WoW too. (An affiliate that goes through us to get to the Internet uses WoW in their work, or at least that's what they told me.) (We do not have residences on our campuses, so I can only imagine the additional pressures on those of you who do. But I can't see that the principles of our AUP wouldn't or couldn't be applied to a residential setting, and in my only recent direct experience of campus residential life (3 recent summer sessions) the policy on network use appeared to be even stricter than our own.) David Gillett, CISSP CCNP Sr Security Engineer Foothill-De Anza College District -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Hayes [mailto:krhayes () WAYNE EDU] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 06:41 To: SECURITY () listserv educause edu Subject: Re: [SECURITY] DMCA The World of Warcraft updater uses BitTorrent to help distribute their patches. Maybe not legitimate from an academic standpoint, but virtually essential if you ask people in Residential Life. --Kevin Kevin Hayes Lead Systems Security Specialist C&IT - Network Engineering and Security Wayne State University 313-577-3454 krhayes () wayne edu <<< C&IT Staff will never, never, NEVER ask you for your password! Please keep your computer and accounts safe - pass on the message!>>> On 11/29/2011 9:32 AM, Joel Rosenblatt wrote:
Used by our students Linux download, Skype See <http://net.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/EST0901.pdf> THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT P2P <http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~danr/courses/6772/Fall06/papers/planetsca le.pdf> Planet Scale Software Updates My 2 cents Joel --On Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:04 AM -0600 Brian L Cox <coxbl2 () UNK EDU> wrote:Ed, We block P2P traffic. When we identify a new P2P application being used by a student we block their access to the network and require them to call and set up an appointment with our CIO before their access is restored. That application is then added to the default blocking list This may seem a bit harsh but it has resulted in only 2 notices sent to us so far this year. We will allow legitimate P2P traffic and so far the only P2P traffic allowed is for those using games that require P2P for updates etc. We have yet to have anyone come forward with a legitimate educational use for P2P. I am sure those applications exist, but we have not encountered them so far. This brings up a second part to this question....what, if any, legitimate P2P applications have been identified being used on college campuses? _________________ Brian L Cox Information Technology Services Assistant Director of Network Services University of Nebraska Kearney (308)865-8176 From: "Hudson, Edward" <ewhudson () CSUCHICO EDU> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Date: 11/28/2011 05:47 PM Subject: [SECURITY] DMCA Sent by: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> Hi All, Polling to see how other campuses are handling DMCA take down notices. Ours has risen to a level current process is not working efficiently. We are hearing some universities are: 1) Ignoring notices from copyright holders 2) Outright blocking of file sharing as "95% are used for nefarious purposes" Interested to see how other institutions are addressing. Thanks Ed Ed Hudson, CISM Information Security Office California State University, Chico http://www.csuchico.edu/isec/index.shtml Office: (530) 898-6307 ewhudson () csuchico eduJoel Rosenblatt, Manager Network & Computer Security Columbia Information Security Office (CISO) Columbia University, 612 W 115th Street, NY, NY 10025 / 212 854 3033 http://www.columbia.edu/~joel Public PGP key http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x90BD740BCC7326C3
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