Re: University credentials used by third parties

[Paul Kendall <PKendall () ACCUDATASYSTEMS COM>]

I used to hear it about the Big 8:

Arthur Andersen - Snow White
Seven Dwarves:
Price Waterhouse
Coopers & Lybrand
Arthur Young
Ernst & Whinney
Deloitte, Haskins, and Sells
Touche Ross
Peat, Marwick, Mitchell

The scary thing is I can remember all the names. I worked for Andersen in the early 80s after competing graduate 
school. One of the British partners at the time, who was leaving to go back to academia, told me the following: "We 
hire all these college graduates with no real world experience. The really good ones are snapped up by our clients. The 
really bad ones we get rid of. The really mediocre ones...they make Partner."

Paul
========================================
Paul L. Kendall, CGEIT, CHP, CHSS, CHS-III, DHS-CVI, CISM, CISSP, CSSLP
PCI Qualified Security Assessor
Senior Consultant
Accudata Systems, Inc.


From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Kieper, 
David
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:43 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] University credentials used by third parties

Anyone one remember the "snow white and the seven dwarfs" in reference to computer companies back in the 60's and 70's:

In the late 60's, IBM was snow white, and seven dwarfs were Burroughs, NCR, Univac, Honeywell, Control Data 
Corporation, RCA, and GE.  Later "dwarfs" were Xerox and DEC in the 70's.  Wang came after that...

I still have a 8 Kbit core stack module from a GE system as well as core memories and a few cpu modules from Xerox 
Sigma systems. Xerox Sigma front panel (full of switches and lights) was just too big to keep around, so that went in 
the junk years ago.  Still bring it out the old stuff for the "younger" staff to see what it was like in the 70's.

Ah yes, the good old days when a cpu was a few hundred 6" x 8" modules, in three large cabinets with miles of wire 
wrapped backplanes, IC can transistors for high speed registers, and (later) basic IC logic gates on sixteen pin chips. 
 Troubleshooting tools were an oscilloscope, rubber mallet or vibration tool, wire wrap tool, and a soldering 
gun/soldapult.   For every problem you were trying to fix, you created and resolved at least one other.  System gave 
off enough RF interference that you could tell if a diagnostic was failing by turning on a radio to just about any 
frequency and listening for changes in the static noise (that also drowned out most radio station signals within 20 
feet of it).

Regards,

David Kieper
Manager, Network and Infrastructure Services
Information Technology Security Officer
Information Services Division
University of Wisconsin - Green Bay                               office:  (920) 465-2238
2420 Nicolet Drive                                                         fax:      (920) 465-2864
Green Bay, WI  54311-7001   USA                                  email:   kieperd () uwgb edu<mailto:kieperd () uwgb 
edu>