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Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide?
From: David A Lundy <dlundy () PACIFIC EDU>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:50:30 -0700
On our campus we do a NAT, not PAT so there is a one to one binding of inside IP to outside IP address for the duration of the NAT. That binding remains for thirty minutes past the last IP traffic for that NAT. We find there usually, but not always, is a several hour period before the outside address is reused. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Shalla [mailto:kshalla () UIC EDU] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:24 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? How long do people set the time for NAT bindings? Is that the same as the lease time? I would have figured that it would be closer to a day than a minute. At 04:45 PM 4/30/2007, John Ladwig wrote:
NAT also severely complicates interactions with Law Enforcement at
times.
LE: "I have a connection to Yahoo.com from your IP a.b.c.d at this time (measured in minutes, not seconds) - can you identify the user?" IR: "That IP maps to several hundred hosts behind a NAT, with a 30-second inactivity timeout on the NAT bindings. Can you be more specific about source port information for our IP and timing down to sub-second, ideally?" LE: "...." Fortunately, so far we haven't had any life- and safety-related queries from LE that went down this path. -jml"Scott O. Bradner" <sob () HARVARD EDU> 2007-04-28 20:10:31 >>>Is anyone aware of a study of large edu's who are doing NAT campus wide?makes answering DMCA complaints quick :-) Scott
Current thread:
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide?, (continued)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Cal Frye (Apr 29)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Jeff Kell (Apr 29)
- Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Marcos Vieyra (Apr 30)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Clifford Collins (Apr 30)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Justin Azoff (Apr 30)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Roger Safian (Apr 30)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Brian Paige (Apr 30)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? John Ladwig (Apr 30)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? John Ladwig (Apr 30)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? Kevin Shalla (May 02)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? David A Lundy (May 02)
- Re: Large edu's doing NAT campus wide? John Ladwig (May 02)