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Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales
From: Haroon Meer <haroon () thinkst com>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:02:18 +0200
Heya(s) In general there is a really strange myopia (by some) around this "cyber weapon" discussion. A few voices (who might just be getting a little too comfortable talking to the press from their positions atop horses (that are high)) appear to be confusing what is morally offensive to them, with what should be enforced for all. There have been a few calls to tar-and-feather the organizations selling spying software to despots (which seems instinctively right) but the arguments are made by people who usually love and promote open-source software. Despots can't (pay people to) run make ? This sounds flippent but i think raises important points that these people seem to be missing: a) We promote open source software. (Wireshark rocks, and moxie rocks for releasing ssl-strip!) b) We raise hell when company-X sells interception software to despots c) We convince governments to step in. Kill company-X (cause they gave software to despots) d) Mission Accomplished! (but wait.. turns out the "bad guys" are using wireshark / sslstrip too) e) Govt legislators say: "no worries guys.. we will stop that nasty FLOSS stuff the way we stopped company-X" f) oh! Calling for government intervention sounds scary as hell and seems like a nudge in a direction few of us would want to go towards.. /mh _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Dave Aitel (Aug 10)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Michal Zalewski (Aug 13)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Jason Syversen (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Ben Nagy (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Bas Alberts (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Michal Zalewski (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Dave Aitel (Aug 10)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Don Bailey (Aug 13)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Christian Heinrich (Aug 13)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Tracy Reed (Aug 13)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Adam Shostack (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Haroon Meer (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Rich Mogull (Aug 17)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Loose Tweets (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Adriel T. Desautels (Aug 14)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Michal Zalewski (Aug 15)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Adriel T. Desautels (Aug 15)
- Re: Neal Stephenson, the EFF and Exploit Sales Michal Zalewski (Aug 15)
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