Re: Standing up an intel op with seized funds

[Robert Graham <robert_david_graham () yahoo com>]

The Economist had a good article on this subject last year:
http://econ.st/g9QNJm

"Total federal seizures have exploded from $400m in 2001 to $1.3 billion in 
2008. State data are patchier, but the trend appears to be sharply upward."

I, too, find it odd that Selby would praise this corruption rather than 
criticize it.




----- Original Message ----
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>
To: dailydave <dailydave () lists immunitysec com>
Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 11:24:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Dailydave] Standing up an intel op with seized funds


On Apr 6, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Nick Selby wrote:

> I just posted an article/podcast with Pat Ryder, who stood up and runs the 
> asset forfeiture and intelligence division of the Nassau County (NY) police 
> department. 

Doing anything with seized funds other than handing them over to the general 
treasury completely subverts the key principle of subsidiarity, violates the due 
process rights of suspects, and encourages law enforcement to 'find' 
offenses/violations in order to fund whatever they decide they want to do/buy, 
any given week.

It completely subverts the legislative and judicial processes and is an 
inducement to corruption.  


This is a perfect example of iatrogenic 'security' - i.e., how some particular 
action at one level appears to be a win, but at the macro level, actually has 
negative, extremely undesirable effects on the system as a whole.  Only in this 
case, the 'system as a whole' = Nassau County.

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