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Re: CSI 2008 Redux
From: RB <aoz.syn () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:36:20 -0700
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:50, Bruce Ediger <eballen1 () qwest net> wrote:
But they so obviously could be used for evil. The MSFT one even looks like it's designed to make DRM easier, and to lock-out the use of any non-MSFT operating system.
At the risk of being redundant, it seems you are conflating TPMs with the full TCG stack. Other than the EK, can you point to any specific functionality of the 1.1 or 1.2 TPM itself that actually supports your claim? Would you mind pointing us at the "MSFT" one of which you speak? My experience with the MS realm of TC stacks is admittedly slimmer than I would like, but those I have seen seem to have come from the TPM vendor rather than MSFT.
In the context of present standards/hardware/etc, isn't your "interesting hook" actually a virtual plastic worm that conceals and makes interesting a fearsome hook that would catch you and kill you?
I find your metaphor inflammatory and designed to elicit emotional response rather than technical dialogue. Would you mind eliminating these elements and try making a technical argument, or are you just trolling the conversation? If not, you're fulfilling the precise stereotype we're talking about: hand waving fearmongering based on 3rd-party information. RB _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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