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w00t 08


From: Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com>
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:25:57 -0400

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These are not the papers you're looking for.
http://www.usenix.org/event/woot08/tech/full_papers/

Seriously, there's nothing there to scare an network offense 
professional. I don't think it's w00t's fault, either. I think the 
research communities are diverging into public and private, as this 
research gets more expensive to do.

USENIX may not be the place for academic treatment of offensive security 
research. A friend of mine wonders if there's any future for academic 
treatment of the subject at all. He wonder's wistfully of course, since 
he likes academia.

Anyways, either be scary or be silly. There's no middle ground here. 
It's a fundamental truth in this field: You're either in, or you're out.

- -dave

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