Re: This guy cracks me up. Lyndon Sutherland

["Pete Markowsky" <peterm () gmail com>]

Since I've not seen it mentioned in the thread yet, it looks like
fingerprinting 802.11 drivers was pretty popular this year it was even at
usenix.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~jfrankli/usenixsec06/usenixsec06driverfingerprinting.ps

-Pete

On 9/4/06, surreal () delusory org <surreal () delusory org> wrote:
> > From: "johnny cache" <johnycsh () gmail com>
> ...
> > Good questions though. Its nice to talk about technical things and not
> > politics or slander for a bit.
>
> It's nice, imo, to finally get something resembling information on this
> topic. Kinda late, well, "pretty fucking late", but better than the
> jack shit I had up 'til now.
>
> > So, anyone else out there think im an idiot doing a dis-service to the
> entire
> > computer security industry?
>
> Since you asked... "Idiot" is a _little_ harsh. You and DM have joined
> Eric Brandwine, Todd MacDermid, and to be fair, Dino Dai Zovi* on my
> very short list of "people who fucked me out of precious Black Hat
> Briefings time by misrepresenting their talk", and I _really_ didn't
> appreciate that.
>
> What useful info did you present? I can summarize it in a small number
> of bytes without forking out thousands of dollars and flying to Vegas:
> "wifi drivers are porrly written. I can exploit them - trust me. Here's
> a home video of David supposedly doing it." Had I known, I'd have
> watched Kevin Mandia's incident response talk.
>
> I save some blame for Jeff Moss for approving your non-presentation.
> After the Fnord kmod fiasco he promised that there would never again be
> talks where the code or information was unavailable. Oops.
>
> Regards, and assuming you're actually not completely bogus, good luck.
> But don't do that again, please.
>
> Surreal
>
> * Dino Dai Zovi gets partial credit for stating during the intro that he
> wouldn't release any code. I left then. Thanks, Dino.
>
> ** But! But! Joanna Rutkowska didn't release code!! Yeah, but she did
> release plenty of real information, put a lot of thought and work into
> her presentation, and speaks and enunciates better than most of the
> native English-speaking presenters. She rocked.
>
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