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Re: This guy cracks me up. Lyndon Sutherland
From: surreal () delusory org
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:43:36 -0700
From: "johnny cache" <johnycsh () gmail com>
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Good questions though. Its nice to talk about technical things and not politics or slander for a bit.
It's nice, imo, to finally get something resembling information on this topic. Kinda late, well, "pretty fucking late", but better than the jack shit I had up 'til now.
So, anyone else out there think im an idiot doing a dis-service to the entire computer security industry?
Since you asked... "Idiot" is a _little_ harsh. You and DM have joined Eric Brandwine, Todd MacDermid, and to be fair, Dino Dai Zovi* on my very short list of "people who fucked me out of precious Black Hat Briefings time by misrepresenting their talk", and I _really_ didn't appreciate that. What useful info did you present? I can summarize it in a small number of bytes without forking out thousands of dollars and flying to Vegas: "wifi drivers are porrly written. I can exploit them - trust me. Here's a home video of David supposedly doing it." Had I known, I'd have watched Kevin Mandia's incident response talk. I save some blame for Jeff Moss for approving your non-presentation. After the Fnord kmod fiasco he promised that there would never again be talks where the code or information was unavailable. Oops. Regards, and assuming you're actually not completely bogus, good luck. But don't do that again, please. Surreal * Dino Dai Zovi gets partial credit for stating during the intro that he wouldn't release any code. I left then. Thanks, Dino. ** But! But! Joanna Rutkowska didn't release code!! Yeah, but she did release plenty of real information, put a lot of thought and work into her presentation, and speaks and enunciates better than most of the native English-speaking presenters. She rocked. _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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