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Re: mac trojan in-the-wild
From: "Robert McArdle" <robertmcardle () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:42:10 +0000
NOTE: Resending this was blocked last time. Profit-driven malware has gotten very good at using Social Engineering (backed up with Exploits) to spread itself. Zlob and it Codecs are one particular example that has worked very well on Windows, even by simply getting the user to install the software willingly. The Storm/Zhelatin/Russian Business Network group however are by far the best at this. They have shown time and time the power of simple Social Engineering in order to infect victims machines. Zlob may have been the first for profit malware to make the jump, but if it proves profitable it will not be long before the others follow. Robert McArdle -- www.RobertMcArdle.com/blog/ - Techie/Security/Inane Ramblings
On Nov 1, 2007 9:49 PM, Alex Eckelberry < AlexE () sunbelt-software com> wrote:Let's not over-hype this-- while "Apple's day" has been coming, sayingthat users will be "hit hard" on something the user has tomanually download, manually execute, and explicitly grantadministrative privileges to is *way* over the top. The future of malware is going to be largely through social engineering. Does that mean we ignore every threat that comes out because it requires user interaction? Seems like whistling past the graveyard to me. Alex -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor () hammerofgod com] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:15 PM To: Gadi Evron; bugtraq () securityfocus com; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: RE: mac trojan in-the-wildFor whoever didn't hear, there is a Macintosh trojan in-the-wild beingdropped, infecting mac users. Yes, it is being done by a regular online gang--itw--it is not yet another proof of concept. The same gang infects Windows machines as well, just that now they also target macs. http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/screenshot-of-new-mac- trojan.html http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/mackanapes-can-now-can-feel- pain-of.html This means one thing: Apple's day has finally come and Apple users aregoing to get hit hard. All those unpatched vulnerabilities from years past are going to bite them in the behind.Let's not over-hype this-- while "Apple's day" has been coming, saying that users will be "hit hard" on something the user has to manually download, manually execute, and explicitly grant administrative privileges to is *way* over the top.I can sum it up in one sentence: OS X is the new Windows 98. Investingin security ONLY as a last resort losses money, but everyone has to learn it for themselves.Not "the new Windows 98" by a long shot - saying that is just irresponsible. While Apple is not used to dealing with security in the same way that other companies are, comparing OSX to Windows 98 is not only a huge technical inaccuracy, but you also insult MAC users out there. OSX had "UAC-like unprivileged user controls" way before Vista did - let's not try to start some holy-war on this like people have tried to do with Windows vs Linux in the past. If you want to report this, then report it-- but say what it is, a totally lame user-must-be-drunk "exploit" that requires that all manner of things go wrong before it works -- otherwise people will think that you've dressed up as Steve Gibson for Halloween. t-- www.RobertMcArdle.com/blog/ - Techie/Security/Inane Ramblings
-- www.RobertMcArdle.com/blog/ - Techie/Security/Inane Ramblings
Current thread:
- mac trojan in-the-wild Gadi Evron (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Matthew Leeds (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Nick FitzGerald (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Thor (Hammer of God) (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild nnp (Nov 02)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] mac trojan in-the-wild Peter Besenbruch (Nov 02)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] mac trojan in-the-wild Paul Schmehl (Nov 02)
- Message not available
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Robert McArdle (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Roger A. Grimes (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Thor (Hammer of God) (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Roger A. Grimes (Nov 02)
- the heart of the problem [was: RE: mac trojan in-the-wild] Gadi Evron (Nov 02)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Matthew Leeds (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Gadi Evron (Nov 02)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Memisyazici, Aras (Nov 02)