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RE: mac trojan in-the-wild
From: "Alex Eckelberry" <AlexE () sunbelt-software com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:49:09 -0400
Let's not over-hype this-- while "Apple's day" has been coming, saying
that users will be "hit hard" on something the user has to
manually download, manually execute, and explicitly grant
administrative privileges to is *way* over the top. The future of malware is going to be largely through social engineering. Does that mean we ignore every threat that comes out because it requires user interaction? Seems like whistling past the graveyard to me. Alex -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor () hammerofgod com] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:15 PM To: Gadi Evron; bugtraq () securityfocus com; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: RE: mac trojan in-the-wild
For whoever didn't hear, there is a Macintosh trojan in-the-wild being
dropped, infecting mac users. Yes, it is being done by a regular online gang--itw--it is not yet another proof of concept. The same gang infects Windows machines as well, just that now they also target macs. http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/screenshot-of-new-mac- trojan.html http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/mackanapes-can-now-can-feel- pain-of.html This means one thing: Apple's day has finally come and Apple users are
going to get hit hard. All those unpatched vulnerabilities from years past are going to bite them in the behind.
Let's not over-hype this-- while "Apple's day" has been coming, saying that users will be "hit hard" on something the user has to manually download, manually execute, and explicitly grant administrative privileges to is *way* over the top.
I can sum it up in one sentence: OS X is the new Windows 98. Investing
in security ONLY as a last resort losses money, but everyone has to learn it for themselves.
Not "the new Windows 98" by a long shot - saying that is just irresponsible. While Apple is not used to dealing with security in the same way that other companies are, comparing OSX to Windows 98 is not only a huge technical inaccuracy, but you also insult MAC users out there. OSX had "UAC-like unprivileged user controls" way before Vista did - let's not try to start some holy-war on this like people have tried to do with Windows vs Linux in the past. If you want to report this, then report it-- but say what it is, a totally lame user-must-be-drunk "exploit" that requires that all manner of things go wrong before it works -- otherwise people will think that you've dressed up as Steve Gibson for Halloween. t
Current thread:
- mac trojan in-the-wild Gadi Evron (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Matthew Leeds (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Nick FitzGerald (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Thor (Hammer of God) (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 01)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild nnp (Nov 02)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] mac trojan in-the-wild Peter Besenbruch (Nov 02)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] mac trojan in-the-wild Paul Schmehl (Nov 02)
- Message not available
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Robert McArdle (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Alex Eckelberry (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Roger A. Grimes (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Thor (Hammer of God) (Nov 02)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Roger A. Grimes (Nov 02)
- the heart of the problem [was: RE: mac trojan in-the-wild] Gadi Evron (Nov 02)
- Re: mac trojan in-the-wild Matthew Leeds (Nov 01)
- RE: mac trojan in-the-wild Gadi Evron (Nov 02)