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Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes
From: "David F. Skoll" <dfs () roaringpenguin com>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:50:12 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Marco S Hyman wrote:
> The answer is not to try to show that open source can be used in > captialistic ventures, but rather to be very clear in stating that free > enterprise (and capitalism) has no place whatsoever at any time in the > creation, formation, and instatement of a government for the people.
Do expect to return to the age where voting is done with a pen and a blank slip of paper,
Yes, indeed. Works very well where I live (the paper isn't blank, though; it's a pre-printed ballot.)
both supplied by the voter?
That's not necessary. I trust the ballot and pen given to me by Elections Canada.
All I demand from a voting system is that votes can be voter verified.
I demand that it can be voter-verified by any "average" voter. That means that anyone capable of voting must be capable of fully understanding and verifying the voting system, which pretty much eliminates electronic voting machines.
That's not true of ANY voting machine regardless of who writes the code unless there is a hard copy audit trail. If there is a hard copy audit trail then it doesn't make any difference who wrote the code.
If you already have a hard copy audit trail, then why not *just* use the hard-copy and dispense with electonic voting machines altogether? -- David.
Current thread:
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes, (continued)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Yoav Nir (Sep 27)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Paul Wouters (Sep 27)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Crispin Cowan (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Adam Shostack (Sep 29)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Greg A. Woods (Sep 27)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Marco S Hyman (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Simon (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Colm Buckley (Sep 29)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes David F. Skoll (Sep 29)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes float (Sep 30)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes David F. Skoll (Sep 30)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Marco S Hyman (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Nicholas Knight (Sep 27)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Bob Toxen (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Kurt Seifried (Sep 28)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Reed, Phillip C. (LNG-DAY) (Sep 30)