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Re: Hackers Out of Business?
From: mcn () c3serve c3 lanl gov (Michael Neuman)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 10:04:25 -0600 (MDT)
Well, I figured I'd throw in a little enlightenment to those of you who don't keep up with firewall systems. The basic going theory is to shut off UDP service (DNS is faked). Thus, they make a valid argument. Obviously their advertisments are trying to get publicity for the company. It's obvious Winn Schwartau thought he was writing another book when they made the brochures <grin>
Sure, sounds secure, but not very useful. I happen to like things like mbone, name resolution, nfs mounting internet archives, talk, the variety of games that require UDP, FSP, etc.
The product seems pretty good from what I've read thus far.
Well, then Winn suckered you in. :-) Just be warned, you can duplicate perhaps 98% of the functionality for free, and it won't even require any programming. In fact, you can probably get more functionality, since I'm sure UDP proxies exist.
Another, more important note, is that they didn't bring it to people known in the industry for their security specialty. Iwould be a bit more willing to swallow this huge lump of sh*t if someone like Willam Cheswick or Steven Bellovin was the one doing the evaluation.
Well, you're confusing public recognition with knowledge. SCTC is probably more well known in their (DoD?) circles than Ches or Bellovin. Besides, AT&T may have a grudge. :-) -Mike
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- Re: Hackers Out of Business? Michael Neuman (Oct 10)
- Re: Hackers Out of Business? Christopher Klaus (Oct 10)
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- Re: Hackers Out of Business? Timothy J. Kordas (Oct 10)
- Re: Hackers Out of Business? Doug Siebert (Oct 10)
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- Re: Hackers Out of Business? jeromie (Oct 11)
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- Re: Hackers Out of Business? Andrew Molitor (Oct 14)
- Re: Hackers Out of Business? jeromie (Oct 14)
- Re: Hackers Out of Business? J. Adams (Oct 15)
- Re: Hackers Out of Business? Christopher Klaus (Oct 10)