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wolves and sheep on the inet
From: newsham () wiliki eng hawaii edu (Timothy Newsham)
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 13:23:56 -1000 (HST)
Which brings up an issue of how to stop crackers. Robert Heinlein, in his book, "Starship Troopers" raises the issue of what to do to prevent insurrection. "If you make the wolves the guardians of the sheep, it will turn them into sheep dogs." When you've already got more priveleges than God, you don't have to try to break into the system in order to get them. Once you have them, you generally then are of the mindset to want to keep them.
Now this is just silly. If you think this would stop *ALL* hacking/cracking whatever you are being deceived. There are more reasons for hacking than getting more priveledge than God. People who break into systems can often get more priveledge than you could possibly give them if this is their goal. Then there are people who hack just because hacking is fun. And what about those people who are already admins and yet still hack into other peoples machines?
Paul Robinson - Paul () TDR COM Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
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- Re: new iss stuff, (continued)
- Re: new iss stuff Pat Myrto (May 10)
- Re: new iss stuff Mark (May 10)
- Re: new iss stuff Karl Strickland (May 10)
- Re: new iss stuff Steven C. Blair (May 10)
- Re: new iss stuff Pat Myrto (May 10)
- Time For New Security Package? (was Re: new iss stuff) David Bianco (May 10)
- Re: Time For New Security Package? (was Re: new iss stuff) Tom Fitzgerald (May 10)
- Re: Time For New Security Package? (was Re: new iss stuff) Oliver Friedrichs (May 11)
- ANNOUNCING THE [8LGM] FILESERVER & MAILING LIST INFO Karl Strickland (May 14)
- Re: Time For New Security Package? (was Re: new iss stuff) Gene Spafford (May 14)
- The ISS Program Paul Robinson (May 10)
- wolves and sheep on the inet Timothy Newsham (May 11)
- Re: wolves and sheep on the inet Gene Spafford (May 13)
- Re: wolves and sheep on the inet Steve Simmons (May 13)
- permissions Perry E. Metzger (May 16)
- Re: permissions Pat Myrto (May 16)
- Re: permissions Evil Pete (May 17)
- Re: permissions Pat Myrto (May 17)
- Re: permissions Gene Spafford (May 17)
- Re: permissions Evil Pete (May 18)
- Re: permissions Evil Pete (May 18)
- [8lgm]-Advisory-7.UNIX.passwd.11-May-1994.NEWFIX [8LGM] Security Team (May 13)