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RE: DDoS protection
From: Jácint TÓTH <Jacint.Toth () xapt com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:15:36 +0200
Hi, The answer to the first question is "it depends". At bandwidths that Your ISP can easily handle, the answer is probably no, their equipment is better placed and probably of a higher grade, so it is better to handle the DDoS protection there, and just put some "of sound mind" sort of things on Your end to handle small-scale stuff that may no even trigger detection thresholds at the ISP. Now on the other hand, if you are in a large hosted environment like a server hotel hooked up directly to an Internet Exchange, or are handling huge amounts of traffic in a datacenter, maybe even function as a traffic concentrator for a larger MAN/WAN/GAN, then it does make sense to have an own solution for the purpose of DDoS protection and maybe firewalling integrated with it. At 10G and higher traffic links and/or several 100s of thousands of RPS on NORMAL traffic, You would probably want to know exactly what You are working with, what's happening to it, and eliminate the delays with having an external entity manage the service. Cost-wise, You have to measure cost vs. potential risk and loss of income if You don't have these, and this calculation will almost always happen to bring You into the 6-digit range in a year at least (USD), as there are significant costs associated with procuring/implementing/operating/supporting such devices. So if you are far beneath that range budget-wise or traffic-wise, don't bother, go with the managed service of the ISP. As for the second question, at first thought there is A10 Networks who have several appliances up to N*40Gb bandwidth for both dedicated DDoS protection and integrated into an application firewall/load balancer, and Cisco's Guard XT series is also an option if You are playing in this league. Ctrix's Netscalers are balancers /ALGs that can help You with DDoS-protection for certain protocols, but these are not really dedicated security devices. If you just want to go for "something", or build something small-scale, then You coul do some testing with say Aache mod_security on an OpenBSD or FreeBSD with pf, these are working fine on a small scale and are cheap to build and maintain, but You'll probably end up managing them Yourself and bear in mind, community support is nothing compared to what a large vendor will provide. Cheers, -- Jacint -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of kartik.netec () gmail com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 10:17 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: DDoS protection Hi, My question is about the DDoS protection appliances. Is it really worth spending $$$$$ buying a DDoS appliance if we already had DDoS subscription from the ISPs? And apart from Arbor and Fortinet, do we have any other big player in this technology? PS: we are not evaluating cloud based DDoS protection. Please advise. Thanks, KT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Securing Apache Web Server with thawte Digital Certificate In this guide we examine the importance of Apache-SSL and who needs an SSL certificate. We look at how SSL works, how it benefits your company and how your customers can tell if a site is secure. You will find out how to test, purchase, install and use a thawte Digital Certificate on your Apache web server. Throughout, best practices for set-up are highlighted to help you ensure efficient ongoing management of your encryption keys and digital certificates. http://www.dinclinx.com/Redirect.aspx?36;4175;25;1371;0;5;946;e13b6be442f727d1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Securing Apache Web Server with thawte Digital Certificate In this guide we examine the importance of Apache-SSL and who needs an SSL certificate. We look at how SSL works, how it benefits your company and how your customers can tell if a site is secure. You will find out how to test, purchase, install and use a thawte Digital Certificate on your Apache web server. Throughout, best practices for set-up are highlighted to help you ensure efficient ongoing management of your encryption keys and digital certificates. http://www.dinclinx.com/Redirect.aspx?36;4175;25;1371;0;5;946;e13b6be442f727d1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- DDoS protection kartik . netec (Jun 16)
- Re: DDoS protection tdjackey (Jun 16)
- Re: DDoS protection Rob Morin (Jun 17)
- RE: DDoS protection rajumsn (Jun 18)
- Re: DDoS protection Abhishek Kumar (abhkuma7) (Jun 18)
- Re: DDoS protection Rob Morin (Jun 17)
- Re: DDoS protection Kopacsi, Christian (Jun 16)
- Re: DDoS protection Dolev Farhi (Jun 17)
- Re: DDoS protection MLS (Jun 17)
- RE: DDoS protection Jácint TÓTH (Jun 16)
- RE: DDoS protection Sable, Amol (Jun 16)
- Re: DDoS protection Kelly Keeton (Jun 16)
- Re: DDoS protection Raistlin Majere (Jun 17)
- Re: DDoS protection Dolev Farhi (Jun 17)
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- Re: DDoS protection alphaone . tw (Jun 18)
- Re: DDoS protection Claudiu Hulea (Jun 18)
- Re: DDoS protection Jean-Marc Dupuis (Jun 18)
- Re: Re: DDoS protection kartik . netec (Jun 18)
- RE: Re: DDoS protection Mikhail A. Utin (Jun 18)
- RE: Re: DDoS protection Sardina, Dominick (Jun 20)
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