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Re: Voice Encryption
From: "Kelly Keeton" <kellyrkeeton () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:15:13 -0700
I am aware that the software must exist on either end my use case didn't imply that the receiving end had no idea of the encryption in use, the use case also didnt state every call is encrypted it stated that i would start up laptop encrypt voice and far end would have software and phone. I am not looking for apple or oranges I am looking for a on the fly encryption product that will take analog voice and transmit it over my medium of choice be it POTS Cellular VOIP, HAM radio, who cares I have the analog carrier signal and that is universal to my use case. Then allow a decode of that digital stream back into analog voice ..think fax machine if you need analogy. also another reply suggested IPSEC - that would not fit the use case as the last caller clearly stated that a POTS phone cant deal with IP let alone any logic other then DTMF, so that also will not fit the use case. the zfone project is actually a commercial version of the PGPfone which is free, and its limited to SIP phone only obviously making the use of the POTS system null unless you have a SIP device on your receiver. the ham radio hobby has lots of ways to accomplish this but due to FCC you cant transmit easily to decode transmissions so no one spends time developing this in the ham radio software world. however the idea is 100% practical and 100% plausible its in use today in a lot of applications but I want to have an application where rather then using RTTY or voice-inversion this would be a high encryption voice encryption product using known standards for encryption. hell as you stated you need a call control set up, you could even use DH to exchange the key pair and get your IPSEC tunnel on the fly with one time keys. hint hint this email is helping someone get a idea to make this software... On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:32 PM, J. Oquendo <sil () infiltrated net> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008, Kelly Keeton wrote:Is there any software that will encrypt voice on the fly? I know there is PGPfone but that's for use with a existing VoIP Phone product. My use case is.. if I want software to encode my voice in software on a laptop over a POTS or Cellular phone do decrypt via far end software and phone. I understand the limitations to some of this due to the audio spectrum available on the equipment but not asking if its possible more, is there software that (ideally opensource) that will do this? -KellyThere is no known mechanism in the software realm that will encrypt or decrypt on the fly if your intentions are to say have every call you make "encrypted". Supposing you had uber product A installed and configured to properly encrypt your sessions. You'd need that same software or hardware on the other end to perform the functions as well. Period. You're comparing apples and oranges when it comes to VoIP and POTS. You need some software mechanisms to encrypt on both ends. How do you propose the phone on the other end of a POTS line decrypt. They'd need some hardware to do the conversion after the VoIP trunk to PSTN termination. It would have to be some form of IP in some form of telco equipment to do such a thing. Anyhow, enjoy the reading: http://www.fiercevoip.com/story/hyping-voip-encryption/2008-05-05 http://voipservices.tmcnet.com/feature/articles/22457-voip-encryption-protection-against-eavesdroppers.htm http://zfoneproject.com/faq.html#pots -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo SGFA, SGFE, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP "A good district attorney can indict a ham sandwich if he wants to ... The accusations harm as much as the convictions ... they're obviously harmful or it wouldn't be news.." - John Carter wget -qO - www.infiltrated.net/sig|perl http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x3AC173DB
Current thread:
- Voice Encryption Kelly Keeton (Sep 23)
- Re: Voice Encryption J. Oquendo (Sep 24)
- Re: Voice Encryption Kelly Keeton (Sep 24)
- Re: Voice Encryption Kurt Buff (Sep 24)
- Re: Voice Encryption Marc-André Laverdière (Sep 24)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Voice Encryption Kelly Keeton (Sep 24)
- RE: Voice Encryption Landriault, Yan (Sep 24)
- Re: Voice Encryption Kelly Keeton (Sep 24)
- RE: Voice Encryption Landriault, Yan (Sep 24)
- Re: Voice Encryption J. Oquendo (Sep 24)