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RE: CISSP Question
From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:24:47 -0700
I doubt that it's "all too common". That gate guard is going to find the other nine domains heavy sledding on the exam if he's never gotten closer to IT than the gate; if he can do well in them, too, then the gate was a wasteful place to put him. The experience has to be endorsed by either a CIO (presumably the employer) or a current CISSP (who would be risking their own certification...). While it could be legal to endorse based on four years at the bottom of a single domain, I for one would prefer to see a mix of domains and some exercise of responsibility. So although the worst-case version of this scenario is theoretically possible, I wouldn't expect it to be common, and I think there are good odds that it hasn't ever happened. David Gillett Full Disclosure: CISSP CCNP CCSE MCSE (and 30 years of experience, 20 in software development and 10 in networking and security)
-----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Simmons, James Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:58 PM To: Florian Rommel Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: CISSP Question So here is a thought for everyone. To qualify for CISSP, you should have at least four years of experience in one of the ten domains. Of which includes Physical Security. So with a bit of cramming, your gun cleaning, gate guard of 4 years can be a qualified CISSP with next to minimal experience in Information security. And as per the ISC2 webpage, to qualify experience you need to have done some of the included actions. (https://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?category=1187) Reactions anyone? P.S. I am not saying that all gate guards are incapable of being good CISSP's. I am just pointing out an all too common scenario. Regards, Simmons -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Florian Rommel Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:53 AM To: Nicolas villatte; krymson () gmail com; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Re: CISSP Question I agree with Nicolas here. I definitely wouldn't endorse a Desktop Jockey with 4 years of experience. I already filed once a complaint because I know a guy who, because he has some certifications and has worked as a pc support, thinks he is qualified to take the exam. His "boss/ partner in crime" was ready to sign off on it. I know for some people a certification like the CISSP doesn't mean much but that still shouldn't mean anyone can get in. I had my work experience fully documented by all my previous employers before I took the exam. Security experience in any of the 10 domains for 4 years doesnt mean that during those 4 years you should have done something security related at some point it means that your position was directly security related. //flosse http://blog.2blocksaway.com On 5/2/07 9:47 AM, "Nicolas villatte" <Nicolas.Villatte () chello be> wrote:Not really, because 5% of your time involved in security during 4 years would give you barely 2 months of experience. I don'tknow anyCISSP who would endorse such a candidate. https://www.isc2.org/cgi/content.cgi?category=1187 "Applicants must have a minimum of four years of direct full-time security professional work experience in one or more of the ten domains of the (ISC)² CISSP® CBK®." Regards, Nicolas.---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Nicolas VILLATTE CISSP, GCIA, GCIH, GCFA Sr. Security Management Specialist -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of krymson () gmail com Sent: mardi 1 mai 2007 14:14 To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: CISSP Question Just a quick add, don't overthink the 4 years' experiencerequirement.You need that experience in any one (or more) of the 10 domains. Honestly, if you're a desktop support jockey for 4 years and you do some sort of security as part of your work (do you manage passwords and/or respond to spyware incidents?), you can stillqualify. Realistically, anyone with 4 years'experience in IT.
Current thread:
- RE: CISSP Question krymson (May 01)
- RE: CISSP Question Chris Smith (May 01)
- RE: CISSP Question Nicolas villatte (May 02)
- Re: CISSP Question Florian Rommel (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 02)
- Re: CISSP Question Florian Rommel (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Al Gettier (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Kelly, Robert L (Lee) (May 03)
- Re: CISSP Question Florian Rommel (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question David Gillett (May 02)
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- Re: Re: CISSP Question nomail (May 01)
- RE: CISSP Question David Gillett (May 01)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 02)
- RE: CISSP Question Lee McDonald (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question Lee McDonald (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question Lee McDonald (May 04)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 02)