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Re: When is a Security patch not a patch?
From: "Jason P. Rusch" <saltynetguru () infosec-rusch com>
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:34:25 -0500
I seem to have the same issue. Management and more specifically the sysadmins seem to believe that since allot of the patches are security in nature, that now patch management falls under the responsibility of the security administrator. First off coming from the sysadmin ranks I would think most admins would prefer to patch their own systems for may reasons I don't think I need to state and second do they really think we have the time or expertise to deal with potential issues related with patching some systems. Starting 2 months ago I indicated to the admins (this was approved my management) through a new defined and formal MIS corporate policy, that sysadmins would need to take ownership of the patch management process and that I would oversee the program including quarterly vulnerability assessments. I even took patch ownership of 1/4 of our servers (30 servers out of 100). My situation is also ad-hoc practice as far as patch management goes, but what amazes me isn't that fact the admins seem to think its my responsibility to patch their systems, but that since I have stopped patching the vast majority of them, in most cases the admins not only are not patching their servers, but they don't seem to care. I have never worked with admins that have such a lack of motivation when it comes to patch management. Basically it bowls down to how much weight MIS management is willing to put behind it. On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 17:22 +0000, solutions () truenorthsatcomm ca wrote:
Greetings, I have a dilemma. I'm the IT Security dude. I'm responsible for filtering incoming security information (CERT announcements, vendor security patches, real threats, etc.) and doing an impact analysis on them. Since our organization is very structured i.e. ITIL I then send my report to our Service Delivery team who is responsible for the hands on sysadmin. So my dilemma is this. Management is now rethinking this approach (since the Service delivery folks are quite busy) and is expecting me to apply patches. My argument is that; a) No one person can have the detailed knowledge of all the OS's we support (basically all OS's) to be able to do this and; b) That a security patch is just another patch, albeit more urgent than patches applied during the regular patch cycle. To be frank, there is no patch management procedure in place at all. Patches are applied in an adhoc "as needed" basis. So what to do? Can anyone offer any insight? Please and Thanks, Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by: BigFix If your IT fails, you're out of business - or worse. Arm your enterprise with BigFix, the single converged IT security and operations engine. BigFix enables continuous discovery, assessment, remediation, and enforcement for complex and distributed IT environments in real-time from a single console. Think what's next. Think BigFix. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;82309979;15562032;o?http://www.bigfix.com/ITNext/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- When is a Security patch not a patch? solutions (Mar 02)
- Re: When is a Security patch not a patch? Jason P. Rusch (Mar 06)
- Re: When is a Security patch not a patch? TrueNorth Satellite Communications (Mar 06)
- RE: When is a Security patch not a patch? Justin Nordine (Mar 06)
- Re: When is a Security patch not a patch? TrueNorth Satellite Communications (Mar 06)
- Re: When is a Security patch not a patch? Devdas Bhagat (Mar 09)
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- RE: When is a Security patch not a patch? jay.tomas (Mar 07)
- Re: RE: When is a Security patch not a patch? esurientone (Mar 07)
- Re: When is a Security patch not a patch? Jason P. Rusch (Mar 06)