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RE: pen test
From: "Craig Wright" <Craig.Wright () bdo com au>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:28:33 +1100
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BDO Kendalls is a national association of separate partnerships and entities. ________________________________ From: listbounce () securityfocus com on behalf of Michael R. Martinez Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 4:04 AM To: Worrell, Brian; Marty Resnick; listbounce () securityfocus com; security-basics Subject: Re: pen test Brian, A vulnerability assessment is completely different as well. Yes, you can assess the vulnerability from a technilogical standpoint of your host. For example, an open port, let's say, port 80 is open on your host. What you are looking for is a vulnerability, port 80 "can" be vulnerability. My "want" to attack that port can, and the vulnerabilities associated with port 80, create the exploit. Basically, a vulnerability assessment is a test to see what ports are open and if any are open are they vulnerable to the attack. After which you begin to label the likelyhood, high, med, low or scale it 1-10. You are not wrong about the laws, such as PCI compliance that want you to testprocess, procedures and technology, but PCI is more than just testing ports, its identify process associated with how you handle personal identifiable information, privacy practices, physical access to servers, procedures, etc. Port scanning for vulnerabilities is a component of the overall compliance test. You cannot ask your host to subvert there security measures but they will certainly deny you, you can however, ask that you run security scans because there are services for this such as comodo and scan alert. I am well aware of the security certs out there and the C|EH as I am a certified ethical hacker among sevaral other security certs, I just don't add them on because 1) there are guys with no certs that are just as good and 2) they mean I passed a test. From my answers I hope you can judge me and not my certs. Having said that, I hope I clarified some of this for you and if not feel free to respond back. Cheers! Mike Michael R. Martinez TF: 800-987-7307 -----Original Message----- From: "Worrell, Brian" <BWorrell () isdh IN gov> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:13:41 To:<mike () security-bounce com>,"Marty Resnick" <marty () techmaking com>,<listbounce () securityfocus com>,"security-basics" <security-basics () securityfocus com> Subject: RE: pen test Michael, Am I wrong, but there are lots of practices and in some cases laws that say that you need to run vulnerability assessments to be compliant. If you were to ask you web host in writing before doing it, that should solve the possible "legality" issue that it sounds like you talking about. As far as I know, White Hat hacking has never been illegal, if done correctly and above board. If it was, why would SANS and other offer Certified Hacker classes and certs? Thanks Brian -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Martinez Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:54 PM To: Marty Resnick; listbounce () securityfocus com; security-basics Subject: Re: pen test Marty, absolutely not, this is called hacking. Pen testing is actively exploiting a server, identifying a weakness exploiting gaining access. Are you talking about scanning ports? Could you provide a little more detail. If you mean pen-testing, then the answer is no. Cheers ------Original Message------ From: Marty Resnick Sender: listbounce () securityfocus com To: security-basics Sent: Dec 10, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: pen test Am I able to pen test or run a vulnerability assessment on my web hosting company. I got the idea after reading this article. http://www.securitypark.co.uk/Security_article.asp?articleid=260173 -- Marty Resnick Techmaking Inc. (877) 291-1110 (office) (661) 209-2089 (mobile) (805) 512-9603 (fax) marty () techmaking com Michael R. Martinez TF: 800-987-7307
Current thread:
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 10)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Ken . Carty (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Craig Wright (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Serg B (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Craig Wright (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 13)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- pen test Marty Resnick (Dec 10)
- Re: pen test Albert R. Campa (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Jayson Agagnier (Dec 12)