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RE: ITT a good ISS school to attend?
From: "Chris Mitchell" <cmitchell () smtusa com>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:38:47 -0500
I attended and graduated ITT in Orlando, FL '96, I would not recommend it to anyone and feel it was a total waste of money. Things could have changed since then but I am very unhappy with the education I received. No instructors really seemed to care, attendance did not matter as long as you paid your tuition you would pass. I wanted to get into PC's and networking security which they were talking up at the time and assured me this would give me a strong background in. The only PC work we did was one term in a PC lab with Win 3.x, it consisted of mouse tutorials and such. The final exam was to FDisk, Format, and reinstall. By this time I had dumped to much money in to quit and only had 2 semesters to get a degree. Now none of my credits will transfer to anywhere, and nobody not even me recognizes my degree as a "real degree". Hope that helps Chris -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Forbes [mailto:jftitan () gmail com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:30 PM To: Curtis Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend? Good News Curtis! As one of my past experiences was when I was going to ITT Tech. unfortunately I was in Texas, thus limiting my ability to continue onto a 4 year degree through ITT. There are Pros and Cons with ITT, which you'll see quite abit of Cons at ITTsucks.com. But a positive, while I was going to ITT, was that I did encounter knowledgable instructors. But unfortunately I didn't get any worthy instructors until the final 3 quarters at ITT. A major change has recently taken ITT, that required them to change where they get there books from. ITT used to have their books written and published by NIIT, which is known to be a inside outsourced company for ITT based in india. Most of the tests sucked, but if the instructor was good, they acutally used his/her own test, which in particular the custom tests are always better than the NIIT prewritten tests. Alot of changes are taking in effect at ITT lately which may improve the quality of the education, but this change is also going to effect the tuition as well. One thing I noticed with the first quarter students, during my last (8th) quarter, was that ITT was getting nazi when it came to attendance. I was told it was because of the Texas Workforce Commission which was enforcing the rules. personally, I would recommend ITT for anyone just getting out of highschool, but never for anyone already in the IT field. You'll learn more from other forms of education (unless your employeer is willing to cover your expense) I wouldn't goto ITT. My experience was good, but I still have reservations about the quality of education I received. On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:51:44 -0800, Curtis <demoshark () gmail com> wrote:
Hi all, Hopefully this question is directed to the right list. I am considering going to ITT Tech for a.a. in SAP (Software Application Programming) and a b.s. in ISS (Information Systems Security. ) I have heard a wide variety of pros and cons about ITT ranging from "you learn more than other 4-year regular colleges" to "the instructors don't even know what they are teaching and all you learn is how to pass a certification, provided your instructor didn't already sell it to you." One of the main reasons I am considering ITT is because it is the only school in Southern California that I know of that offers a degree in ISS. Should I instead of looking for a degree in ISS but rather focus on a degree in programming & networking then get security certifications? Also does anyone know if ITT is really that horrible and if I should instead of going to ITT go to a junior college? Are my chances of getting a job leading to a ISS job even lower than if I went to a four-year college? I do realize that security can be hard to get into and may have to settle for a tech support job and work my way up from there. Finally, if ITT isn't a good school, any suggestions on a good ISS/programming school that is located in Southern California? Curtis
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Current thread:
- ITT a good ISS school to attend? Curtis (Mar 21)
- Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend? Joseph Forbes (Mar 23)
- RE: ITT a good ISS school to attend? Chris Mitchell (Mar 23)
- Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend? Brandee Adderley (Mar 23)
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- Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend? BladeRunner0123 (Mar 24)
- Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend? Chase Simms (Mar 24)
- Re: ITT a good ISS school to attend? Joseph Forbes (Mar 23)