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RE: Wireless access


From: Joe Thompson <jt () techforless com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:55:28 -0700

There are a hundred ways to set this up, and there have been quite a few good (however partial) answers.

On our networks here we use a combination of things, one is the individual separation of our wireless network with it's own dedicated firewall. This allows us to restrict everything separately without having to muck around with the rest of our production architecture. Though the DMZ idea is nice, the complete separation of subnets via dedicated firewall's reduces risk of a breach to the main firewall, and allows me to change nearly anything without fear of affecting the production network. All traffic destined for the production network is handled via VPN and anything else is purely "guest" traffic anyhow.

Authentication is handled via certificates and radius, and we use 128 bit WEP to make it less inviting for passers by. A separate snort monitor sit's on the same subnet.

Because we use this network primarily for testing, the firewall is quite restrictive, most notably we do not allow port 25 access (so as to avoid the possibility of unsolicited mail getting out). When someone need's access to a particular service or port to be unrestricted we simply throw a static entry into our DHCP setup, kick the rules into our firewall, and let them through. When access is no longer needed we remove all the entries. (this is rarely needed as most any legitimate access is handled via the VPN connection)

Yes, this is a lot of work on the admin side, bear in mind that most firewall's (if not all currently on the market) have fancy web based management interfaces, and anything done with IPtables can be easily scripted. The hard part is the initial setup but this tends to run extremely smooth for our needs.

Joe Thompson

On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 14:42, Robert Mezzone wrote:
How do you handle wireless network security in a corporate environment? A
couple of the people here want me to setup a wireless network so visitors
can setup there laptop in a conference room, or anywhere in the office
and connect to the network, internet not our internal network. I'm not to
comfortable with this idea but I don't have the final say. It sounds
like I would have to leave MAC access control turned off, or obtain the
users MAC address then enter it into control list, and also provide the
visitor with the SSID and the WEP password. Am I correct in this
assumption. Wireless networking was suppose to make things easier in
their eyes. Unless I leave everything wide open it's probably easier to
plug an Ethernet cable in the PC.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Martin [mailto:Peter.Martin () macquarie com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:45 AM
To: Paul John Summers; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Wireless access

Most, if not all wireless access points and/or routers will have built-in
MAC access control. Usually very simple - just turn it on and add the
addresses you wish to allow access.

The problem is, like you said, that it is very easy to spoof a MAC
address and get around this security. However, for home users, setting
an SSID (and NOT something recognisable like "John Smith Home Internet
Share"), turning on WEP (or WPA if the devices support it) encryption
with a non-easily guessed password, and setting MAC access control;
should be more then enough for a user to feel safe.

Regards,
Peter Martin
Network Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul John Summers [mailto:paul_john_summers () hotmail com]
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 6:27 AM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Wireless access


And addendum to that question, do any wireless routers contain tools so
that you can block all but specific hardware addresses? That is, my home
wireless router would block all but my hardware address, much like
hard-wired networks often require registration of hardware addresses
before allowing a new system to access it. I do believe there are
methods of spoofing hardware addresses but that aside, do wireless
routers have capabilities for this

sort of thing that a home user could easily administer to better secure
their home network?

Disclaimer: I'm also a newbie so please forgive any misconceptions or
false assumptions!


From: "Bruyere, Michel" <mbruyere () ezemcanada com>
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Wireless access
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:36:05 -0500

Hi,
        I have a user who uses a wireless network at home. He just asked
me
(it's a director) to find a way to avoid his laptop (Toshiba tecra
running
XP Pro) connecting on the neighbor's router instead of his. He has a
D-Link
614+, I don't know this model at all so I'm asking you guys if you know
a
way to restrict his laptop to only HIS router.

As you can see, I'm not very familiar with Wireless :/

Thanks for any inputs

M.Bruyere
Network/systems administrator
CompTIA A+, Network+


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