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Re: MS Admin frendily *nix distrobution / Re: to the RE:s Windows IDS


From: Gene Cronk <gcronk () trsg net>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:48:08 -0500

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My first suggestion here would be:  see if there's a Linux User's Group
in your area.  If there is, sign up on their mailing list and go to a
meeting or two.  You can learn a lot by actually interacting with people
who use Linux.

Second suggestion:  I would personally go with SuSE as a beginner
distro.  As far as documentation, check out:

The Linux Documentation Project:  http://www.tldp.org/

Webmonkey's UNIX Guide:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/unix_guide/

Webmonkey's "Enough UNIX for Your Resume":
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/97/02/index3a.html?tw=backend

Hope this helps.

- --
Gene Cronk MCP,iNet+,Network+ (gcronk () trsg net)
The Robin Shepherd Group -- Systems Administrator
Office (904)-359-0981 Ext. 36
Cell (386)-795-3081


me null wrote:

| Well i must say i am verry happy with the amount of replys i recieved on
| this thread. sry bout the delay in my responce, all ov your input was
| very nice and sry bout noot looking as well as i should have on snort.org
|
| As far as *nix goes, i have been planing on getting a distro. and
| learning *nix ive just been very bussy latly. I was over on technet the
| otherday and noticed thay smartly made the conversion from *nix > M$
| alot eayser via there doc on x-fering *nix knowladge to M$. i havnt read
| it but i did have 2 questions...
|
| 1 witch distrobution makes the eaysest transition from MS > *nix?
| 2 is there a doc the opsite of the 1 MS made? i sapose i could reverse
| enginer it but id rather not have to
|
| you can turn off / close all of the ports in MS atleast in 2k3 i havnt
| tryed it in 2k yes even 135tcp i dont mean block but close the ports.
| (tho u can block access to them 3 times over aswell) what i lack in *nix
| knowlage i make up for in MS
|
| - thx again - me
|
|
|> From: Jimi Thompson <jimit () myrealbox com>
|> To: "me null" <me_null () hotmail com>,security-basics () securityfocus com
|> Subject: Re: Windows IDS
|> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 22:55:24 -0600
|>
|> All of the best tools are going to be linux or unix based since
|> they've likely been around longer.  Personally, I consider my IDS box
|> to be a bastion host and I try to lock it down as best I can.  That's
|> very difficult to do with Windows unless you want a very broken
|> machine.  It's much easier to do with Linux or Unix.  Frankly, of all
|> the IDS's I've see, commercial and open source, SNORT rates among the
|> highest.  I've worked for larger employers who insisted on testing
|> other products, many that ran well into 6 figures, but most all of
|> them ended up using SNORT.  They may have bought the other stuff, but
|> SNORT definitely has it's place.  Combined with per host firewalls,
|> Tripwire, good perimeter security and Nessus to scan and check on
|> everything, you should be in good very good shape.  I'd also suggest
|> that  you scavenge something you can load RedHat, Mandrake, or SuSE on
|> and start getting comfortable with Linux.
|>
|> 2 cents,
|>
|> Jimi
|>
|> At 2:31 PM -0500 11/6/03, me null wrote:
|>
|>> Hello everyone, ive seen alot of people recomending snort as an IDS
|>> but the only problem w/ that is im running windows. As far as the
|>> enviorment the IDS would be in... theres not alot of PCs in it, its a
|>> privet network. The top few things i want are in this order
|>>
|>> 1 - Security of course, how good the IDS acutualy is
|>> 2 - Interface, something that will not be a pain in the arse to have
|>> to deal with
|>> 3 - Price, null = best
|>> 4 - Funcontionalty, basic features that make life easyer ie. having
|>> logs sent to a remote pc, ect ect
|>>
|>> TY
|>>
|>> BTW about "opensource" things, is the only opensource apps / tools
|>> just for non MS platforms?  if i made an IDS for windows i would have
|>> it be open source
|>>
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