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RE: Internet E-mail monitoring/approval
From: Gregory Kane <gregory.kane () us army mil>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:38:01 -0500
Well what I was speaking to is what is found in many organizations today. No clear cut policy. Without a written policy stating that the company will monitor, and a copy of that policy signed by the employee, then there is trouble. If our intent is to establish a written policy, have it scrubbed by legal, next have the employee(s) sign, then there is bases. Arbitrary review of email with no written consent by the employee leads to court. The written consent to monitor is the employee's signature on the policy. What the law stipulates is the "reasonable assurance as to the expectancy of privacy". We can sign that expectancy away. The U.S. Government sector can and does vary on this. And again all this depends on the person wearing the black robe. I have heard a judge in open court state - "If you do not like my ruling then appeal". In this case the judge had ruled against what appeared to be case law in favor of the plaintiff. There just is no sure thing so all we can do is cover our ass(ets). A case could be won on appellate, if the employee wins lower court, but then trial costs skyrocket. With a good signed policy an attorney would probably never take an employee case to begin with. So long story short, my comment was based on no signed company policy on email monitoring which I feel is the norm for many companies. Greg Kane -----Original Message----- From: Mike Moore [mailto:mike () moorecomputing net] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:17 PM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Internet E-mail monitoring/approval Actually that's not true for a business. http://www.cli.org/emailpolicy/ECPA.html http://www.jacksonlewis.com/publications/articles/20010923/default.cfm http://cyber.findlaw.com/privacy/workplace.html http://www.loundy.com/CASES/Bourke_v_Nissan.html
-----Original Message----- From: Gregory.Kane () hood-ctsfmail army mil [mailto:Gregory.Kane () hood-ctsfmail army mil] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:16 PM To: tfrederick () ascentek com; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: re: Internet E-mail monitoring/approval Ted The best answer is to get a good attorney and a court order for anywhere in the United States, or lots of money for the law suit. The Privacy Act has you on this one. Email is considered the same as personal snail mail and cannot be opened without a court order and it must be from a federal court. Greg Kane Greg Kane M.S., GSEC, VAT SAIC CTSF-TD-IA Assistant Information Assurance Manager Trl- 4G (254) 532-8321 X-2032 Cell 254-865-4934 gregory.kane () hood-ctsfmail army mil ------------------------------------------------------------------- Is SPAM over-loading your e-mail server, disk space or bandwidth? SurfControl E-Mail Filter is flexible, intelligent and policy-driven protection. http://www.securityfocus.com/SurfControl-> security-basics2 Download your free fully functional trial, complete with 30-days of free technical support. Stop SPAM before it stops you. -------------------------------------------------------------------
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