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Re: Bypassing the first layer


From: Anders Broman via Wireshark-dev <wireshark-dev () wireshark org>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:37:46 +0000

Hi,

Did not find it online, but some basics:

Put the following lines into a file

0000   00 0c 00 0c 67 73 6d 5f 61 5f 64 74 61 70 00 00  ..... gsm_a_dtap 67 73 6d 5f 61 5f 64 74 61 70

0010   00 1e 00 04 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 08 15 03 

And run

text2pcap.exe -l 252 Manufacture_frames_exp_pdu.txt Manufactured_frames_exp_pdu.pcapng

 

0000   00 0c 00 0c 6e 61 73 2d 35 67 73 00 00 00 00 00   ....nas-5gs.....

0010   00 1e 00 04 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 7e 00 3e 57   ..............>A Message type last octet  0x57 Authentication 
response

0020   78 00 57 0a 01 25 46 00 00 55 71 53 01 d6 10 04   ó....%F..UqS.Ö..

0030   8e 42 20 10 00 04 20 63 db 24 2f 04 4d aa 62 67   .B n.. cÛ$/.Mªbg

0040   52 22 04 78 78 00 33 78 00 30 00 5e 7b 78 40 04   R"."..0.nf.^{x@.

0050   75 9f 77 77 50 04 5a fa f6 6d b0 2b 03 3d ff ff   u.wwP.Zúöm°+.=ÿÿ

0060   2c 04 00 00 00 00 2d 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 c0 7c   ,.....-.......À|

0070   00 08 07 00 c0 7c 00 02 00 00                     ....À|....

text2pcap.exe -l 252 Manufacture_frames_exp_pdu.txt Manufactured_frames_exp_pdu.pcapng

 

 

 

From: Wireshark-dev <wireshark-dev-bounces () wireshark org> On Behalf Of Juanjo Martin Carrascosa
Sent: den 15 januari 2020 14:54
To: Developer support list for Wireshark <wireshark-dev () wireshark org>
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Bypassing the first layer

 

This helps me too. There are some slides about export pdu.

 

But yes, any material is welcome. Thanks for the help team. This is fantastic.

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:47 PM Dario Lombardo <lomato () gmail com <mailto:lomato () gmail com> > wrote:

I don't think this is what Anders was talking about. This is about extcap, while I was referring to export_pdu.

If you or Anders can reference the right one, that would be great.

If you want to have a look at something using export_pdu creating a pcap file, have a loot at the udpdump.c code.

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:37 PM Juanjo Martin Carrascosa <juanjo () rti com <mailto:juanjo () rti com> > wrote:

https://sharkfestus.wireshark.org/assets/presentations18/17.pptx

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:36 PM Dario Lombardo <lomato () gmail com <mailto:lomato () gmail com> > wrote:

Can you share the link, for future reference?

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:15 PM Juanjo Martin Carrascosa <juanjo () rti com <mailto:juanjo () rti com> > wrote:

Found the presentation, this is fantastic.

 

Thanks!

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:58 PM Anders Broman via Wireshark-dev <wireshark-dev () wireshark org <mailto:wireshark-dev 
() wireshark org> > wrote:

Hi,

In the frame layer there is the “Encapsulation type” the way the pcap format works this indicates how the data 
following should be interpreted.

Linktype/encapsulation type is defined at  
<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=c347add8-9fcd786c-c347ed43-866a015dd3d5-d7661157f49a37ff&q=1&e=d82b7876-3625-4158-b8b6-c262c0dc56f8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcpdump.org%2Flinktypes.html>
 https://www.tcpdump.org/linktypes.html so one thing you could do is to design your own DLT

Add whatever meta data you want and then add the RTPS data at some position in that structure. You can try this out by 
using the USER DLTs in Wireshark

Or if you do not want to request a DLT from tcpdump ( DO NOT USE ONE WITHOUT ALLOCATING IT) you could use the Exported 
PDU DLT defined by Wireshark

Epan/exported_pdu.h contains some information. If you would require new elements for meta information that could be 
discussed. Adding RTSP data in

An exported_pdu DLT frame should be simple as an initial test. I think there is a sharkfest presentation on how to add 
any protocol data in an exported pdu frame with text2pcap.

Regards

Anders

 

From: Wireshark-dev <wireshark-dev-bounces () wireshark org <mailto:wireshark-dev-bounces () wireshark org> > On Behalf 
Of Juanjo Martin Carrascosa
Sent: den 15 januari 2020 12:24
To: Developer support list for Wireshark <wireshark-dev () wireshark org <mailto:wireshark-dev () wireshark org> >
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Bypassing the first layer

 

Hi Dario,

 

Could you elaborate on this? I get the idea but my knowledge about the how is very basic.

 

How can this help me achieve what I need?

 

Thanks for the help.

Juanjo Martin

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 4:48 PM Dario Lombardo <lomato () gmail com <mailto:lomato () gmail com> > wrote:

You can use export_pdu. This is a layer with multiple attributes (see epan/exported_pdu.h), but the only really needed 
is the proto_name, that allows you to directly call a dissector by its name.

You will have frames with this stack: FRAME/EXPORT PDU/RTPS, that is properly dissected by wireshark.

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 4:33 PM Juanjo Martin Carrascosa <juanjo () rti com <mailto:juanjo () rti com> > wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

RTPS is a protocol already supported by Wireshark. I have been helping maintain that protocol these past years. It sits 
on top of TCP and UDP, as well as some other transports that are not network ones (Shared Memory typically with a 
proprietary implementation).


 

We are currently working on implementing a new logging mechanism for our product, mainly to address the Shared Memory 
scenario but it can also be really useful when RTPS is used on top of network protocols. 

 

Problem: We can log the RTPS layer but we don't have some information in our middleware like the Frame or Ethernet 
information, so we need to make it up. This is ugly, so I am trying to avoid that:

 

How can I register a protocol so it is picked up instead of the Frame layer? This is, I want to create a new protocol 
that detects that the information we generate is for that protocol and the Frame protocol is not called, but the new 
protocol I am creating. This new protocol will then call the RTPS protocol to dissect the payload I want to display. We 
are planning to also add some information to this custom protocol, that's why I want it to be called first.

 

Note: I just came up with this solution, but if you have a different solution for this, please let me know.

 

Thanks,

Juanjo Martin

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