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Re: Web 2.0 support group


From: "Catherine Pagliaro" <cc () csfm com>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:11:20 -0700 (PDT)

The Payment Card Industry Security Standards and Payment Application Data
Security Standards attempt to get programmers to code securely. I
underline attempt.  We as payment application developers must follow
owasp.org standards and common sense security best business practises for
developing any type of code, hardening servers and locking down network
systems,as well as assuring our physical environments are locked down to
maintain our PCI DSS compliance.  As we do these types of assessments it
is frightening the lack of education and training on all aspects of
physical and IT application development and hosting security.  Education,
training and attention to security best business practises for all types
of software and languages is necessary to minimize the rising criminal
activity.  PCI DSS and the other security requirements for doing business
online is just the first small step to getting all applications coded
securely to avoid data loss, fraud and identity theft.  We also need a
committment from all application developers to code securely...as we have
a committment from security professionals, law enforcement, the card
associations and payment service providers and acuirting facilities to
make this happen...Go to the PCI Security Standards website - you can
google it...it is a first start at getting our industry standardized for
coding securely....


Steven M. Christey wrote:
So I've been an observer of the "Web 2.0 is a security nightmare" camp
with the occasional head nods and detached agreement, being enough of a
generalist that I didn't have anything to add to the alarms raised by
the
specialists.  Where is the support group for those who have recently
realized just how desperate the situation is?

I'm not being entirely facetious.  Is there any hope at all?

- Steve



1. No, but there is no hope for generalized security apart from "Web
2.0" either.  There is only risk reduction.

2. Stop complaining about Web 2.0.  Really.  It doesn't exist.  There
are security problems specific to JSON, AJAX, REST, SOAP, FLEX, social
networking, P2P, etc.  If you want to actually discuss the risk, name
the risk you're interested in.  Web 2.0 doesn't mean anything we can
discuss like rational people.  Same goes for "the Cloud".

Steve
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