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Re: [7.8.2002 44916] Notice of Copyright Infringement]


From: ricta <ricta () netrecon com au>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:02:18 +1000

Im sorry... I cant help but think that you are going mad.
A crime is a crime... you break the law.. its broken.
Copyright is there for a reason and all this guff about hot to get
around it and how to tell MPAA to F%#@ off is a load selfish
cods wallup.
All you guys that distribute this material are why the people who
obey the law a forced to people such high prices for movies, games etc.

My personal opinion... you should all start working out how to stop
complaining about the powers that be, and stop believing the
world owes you FREE stuff.

Get a job.. pay for it... freeloading thieves.

Kayne Ian (Softlab) wrote:

2 points about this thread.

First, a lot of people have posted responses to the effect of "Unless xxx
downloads the file that is supposedly breaching copyright, they can't tell
if you *are* breaching copyright or not, thus breaching it themselves".
Unfortunately this isn't true (at least for EDonkey). EDonkey creates a hash
of the file on your hd, and compares it with the hashes on everyone elses
hd. If you're in the middle of downloading the file, Edonkey can be sure
it's resuming the same file from someone else (regardless of filename) by
these hashes. Therefore to prove copyright infringment, all these companies
need to do is to confirm your hashes are the same hashes as a "real" warezed
version of whatever movie. Of course the movie house give the company legal
permission to download etc the file, therefore they are not in contravention
of copyright law. So all the company does is run a donkeybot or similar,
scan the network and log all the people who are sharing a file with hashes
that match a warezed ver of the movie. Until it becomes illegal to own a
checksum of a file...

As a side note, this hashing works against them too. They may have been
flooding the p2p networks with "bad" versions of movies, but all any
sensible person needs to do is to use a website (sharereactor.com, for
example) and use the hash link off there. Providing the website is "true"
(and there are enough of them), you'll always be garanteed to download the
file you actually want.

Secondly, companies & "entities" in the USA really need to get a damn grip
of themselves. A friend of mine received an email from a company saying he
was breaching the DCMA etc for exactly the same reason as Keith Tyler. The
problem? He lives in the UK, just like me. Sorry to tell you, no matter how
much you don't want to believe it (and how many times you put a Skylarov in
jail) American law does NOT apply worldwide.

All that said, piracy is of course a crime. Views are my own. Standard
disclaimer applies etc etc.

Ian Kayne
Technical Specialist - IT Solutions
Softlab Ltd - A BMW Company







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